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16 hours ago, hissingsid said:

The N H S is really a poisoned chalice, it has not been run properly for years in fact the new hospital has never been used to its full potential and is badly designed.  When Howard was health minister he inherited a big, fat , mess, he hired Chartres who he hoped would be helpful, he was not.   All the time he was looking for answers Beecroft was there like a snappy little terrier asking questions about everything and generally being a pain in the arse, not helpful, so when he was made C.M he got revenge by giving her the job knowing she would f...k up big time and she did not disappoint.   She who must be obeyed took over and trampled on anyone and anything who got in her way.   Rob and two others walked and quite rightly, teamwork is essential in any organisation.    If anyone remembers this is the second time two top team members took the high road the last time was when the last damning report came out a few years ago, they took early retirement the day before it was published, obviously they had been allowed to put an eye over it before publication.   The Health Service is in a total mess.   I think David Ashford is doing a very difficult job in extreme circumstances and instead of declaring a climate disaster I think a Health Service disaster is more important and imminent.

 

 

Time for a 'Manx Care Health Trust' & politicians kept out of it

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1 hour ago, MrPB said:

Two things strike me the more I read these boards 

1. There seem to only be about 5 posters who don’t work for the hospital or IOM Government on here

2. They all seem to prefer the halcyon days of absolutely no public scrutiny & pretty much being sorted out by their mates or former school chums 

I am wrong? That’s how a lot of the posts lately seem to come across. 

I for one don't look back to halcyon days, although I do see with each sequential government a deterioration in its quality.  The fish rots from the head, as they say, and in our case the head in many ways is Tynwald and its members.  Making scapegoats of public servants can serve a political purpose, but I haven't seen it lead to improvements.

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2 hours ago, dilligaf said:

Where did Tim Mansfield fit into all that?

Not sure what he did mate, sorry

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On 5/12/2019 at 6:54 PM, MrPB said:

You mean the one who didn’t have enough o levels to join the civil service and failed the exam more than once and then went on to run the DHSS? 

Hello Mr. PB

A family member has alerted me to your posts and as your observations are not correct, it’s only fair that I correct them for you.

I joined the civil service on 17th May 1976 with 4 GCE “O” levels (I subsequently gained a fifth) which allowed me to join as a Clerical Assistant - the  most junior rank - for which 3 O levels were required. (Sadly, no “special pass” for me to avoid entry requirements as you suggested in another of your posts). In order to be eligible for promotion to Clerical Officer I was required to pass a civil service exam and, having done so at the first attempt, was promoted to CO in late 1977. For advancement to Executive Officer a further “EO” exam pass was required (it isn’t these days) in an exam that was close in nature and content to an “A” level. Having passed this exam, also at the first attempt, I was promoted to Executive Officer in December 1983 and to Higher Executive Officer in 1986, the same year that I gained my HNC with Distinction in Public Administration. Further promotions followed and by December 1998 I was a Senior Executive Officer in the Chief Secretary’s Office - today called Cabinet Office - where I undertook two separate job roles in my time there.

By this stage recruitment to CEO posts had matured and involved an “Assessment Centre” as well as formal interview. The Assessment Centre included such elements as psychometric testing, critical problem solving and an interview with an HR psychologist. It was being subject to that regime that preceded my appointment to CEO of the Department of Home Affairs in 2001, being the first of my two CEO posts, and it was a very similar process in 2003 when I joined DHSS,  just after completing all my assignments within the UK Civil Service Top Management  Programme. I remained with DHSS/Department of Health for 11 years until my retirement on 31 March 2014 after a 38 year career.

So... no “special pass”, no “exam failed more than once”, just the exams/qualifications asked for by the organisation. And, not least, the pleasure of working with some great people.

I’m  happy to put the record straight, as you’ve taken such a keen interest.

Kind regards

David Killip

 

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Correcting typo
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1 hour ago, Boo Gay'n said:

Not sure what he did mate, sorry

Supposed commissioning manager, who did not commission much and was “let go”

I think yet another Charters cock up

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53 minutes ago, David K said:

Hello Mr. PB

A family member has alerted me to your posts and as your observations are not correct, it’s only fair that I correct them for you.

I joined the civil service on 17th May 1976 with 4 GCE “O” levels (I subsequently gained a fifth) which allowed me to join as a Clerical Assistant - the  most junior rank - for which 3 O levels were required. (Sadly, no “special pass” for me to avoid entry requirements as you suggested in another of your posts). In order to be eligible for promotion to Clerical Officer I was required to pass a civil service exam and, having done so at the first attempt, was promoted to CO in late 1977. For advancement to Executive Officer a further “EO” exam pass was required (it isn’t these days) in an exam that was close in nature and content to an “A” level. Having passed this exam, also at the first attempt, I was promoted to Executive Officer in December 1986, the same year that I gained my HNC with Distinction in Public Administration. Further promotions followed and by December 1998 I was a Senior Executive Officer in the Chief Secretary’s Office - today called Cabinet Office - where I undertook two separate job roles in my time there.

By this stage recruitment to CEO posts had matured and involved an “Assessment Centre” as well as formal interview. The Assessment Centre included such elements as psychometric testing, critical problem solving and an interview with an HR psychologist. It was being subject to that regime that preceded my appointment to CEO of the Department of Home Affairs in 2001, being the first of my two CEO posts, and it was a very similar process in 2003 when I joined DHSS,  just after completing all my assignments within the UK Civil Service Top Management  Programme. I remained with DHSS/Department of Health for 11 years until my retirement on 31 March 2014 after a 38 year career.

So... no “special pass”, no “exam failed more than once”, just the exams/qualifications asked for by the organisation. And, not least, the pleasure of working with some great people.

I’m  happy to put the record straight, as you’ve taken such a keen interest.

Kind regards

David Killip

 

Well said David

Too many on here think they know it all, but know little.:thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, dilligaf said:

Well said David

Too many on here think they know it all, but know little.:thumbsup:

Oh the irony 

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6 minutes ago, Gizo said:

Oh the irony 

You might be surprised yesser:flowers: 

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2 hours ago, David K said:

Hello Mr. PB

A family member has alerted me to your posts and as your observations are not correct, it’s only fair that I correct them for you.

I joined the civil service on 17th May 1976 with 4 GCE “O” levels (I subsequently gained a fifth) which allowed me to join as a Clerical Assistant - the  most junior rank - for which 3 O levels were required. (Sadly, no “special pass” for me to avoid entry requirements as you suggested in another of your posts). In order to be eligible for promotion to Clerical Officer I was required to pass a civil service exam and, having done so at the first attempt, was promoted to CO in late 1977. For advancement to Executive Officer a further “EO” exam pass was required (it isn’t these days) in an exam that was close in nature and content to an “A” level. Having passed this exam, also at the first attempt, I was promoted to Executive Officer in December 1986, the same year that I gained my HNC with Distinction in Public Administration. Further promotions followed and by December 1998 I was a Senior Executive Officer in the Chief Secretary’s Office - today called Cabinet Office - where I undertook two separate job roles in my time there.

By this stage recruitment to CEO posts had matured and involved an “Assessment Centre” as well as formal interview. The Assessment Centre included such elements as psychometric testing, critical problem solving and an interview with an HR psychologist. It was being subject to that regime that preceded my appointment to CEO of the Department of Home Affairs in 2001, being the first of my two CEO posts, and it was a very similar process in 2003 when I joined DHSS,  just after completing all my assignments within the UK Civil Service Top Management  Programme. I remained with DHSS/Department of Health for 11 years until my retirement on 31 March 2014 after a 38 year career.

So... no “special pass”, no “exam failed more than once”, just the exams/qualifications asked for by the organisation. And, not least, the pleasure of working with some great people.

I’m  happy to put the record straight, as you’ve taken such a keen interest.

Kind regards

David Killip

 

with that wealth of experience what do you see as the main problem with the running of the health service nowadays david? 

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12 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

with that wealth of experience what do you see as the main problem with the running of the health service nowadays david? 

Can I second guess that and say political interference.

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2 hours ago, David K said:

Hello Mr. PB

A family member has alerted me to your posts and as your observations are not correct, it’s only fair that I correct them for you.I

I sort of knew that would solicit a response from you. 

Isn’t it funny how many peoples’ relatives scan these boards every day ;)

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10 minutes ago, MrPB said:

I sort of knew that would solicit a response from you. 

Isn’t it funny how many peoples’ relatives scan these boards every day ;)

No you didn’t. 

You are now embarrassed by your ignorant posting and are now trying to look smart. BTW you have failed big time :lol:

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1 minute ago, dilligaf said:

No you didn’t. 

You are now embarrassed by your ignorant posting and are now trying to look smart. BTW you have failed big time :lol:

I’m not really that bothered what Manx Forums apparently resident angry soap box shouter thinks to be honest. As I said it seems to be stuffed full of pissed off hospital and government workers this forum and little else. If people had to work for a living they wouldn’t be posting there nonsense and paranoid theories here during working hours. 

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2 minutes ago, MrPB said:

I’m not really that bothered what Manx Forums apparently resident angry soap box shouter thinks to be honest. As I said it seems to be stuffed full of pissed off hospital and government workers this forum and little else. If people had to work for a living they wouldn’t be posting there nonsense and paranoid theories here during working hours. 

Are you walking backwards very slowly ?

Give it up , you have been caught out.

BTW I am not at work but on my hols, so sitting in 30 degrees of sunshine reading your shite, while getting tanned.

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13 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

Are you walking backwards very slowly ?

I really am amazed people still bother posting on this forum with people like you on here 24/7 spouting rubbish and making everything so confrontational for absolutely no reason at all. As I said it’s perhaps good to flush disaffected government workers out on here. Seems the bait worked pretty well. 

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