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27 minutes ago, ecobob said:

Regardless of his stature within the house I still think the CM should be able to rein someone in who is making a bit of a laughing stock of themselves as it reflects on government as a whole. But we can agree to differ on that.  

Who else should they also be reigning in and consciously protecting? Harmer? Moorhouse? Cregeen? They all make complete tits out of themselves. How is Callister a special case? They have no duty to protect anyone. They’re all independents and therefore responsible to themselves for the way they project themselves to the public. If they get it wrong tough. 

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1 hour ago, Grounds Keeper Willy said:

Thanks for clarifying. I thought it was displaying impaired empathy and disinhibited and egotistical traits. Is that a psychopath? 

Oh sociopaths and psychopaths have those traits as well.  It's just that sociopaths tend to be more manipulative.  They understand, they 'know what buttons to press', they just don't really care about the consequences for other people.

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18 minutes ago, Kopek said:

So, Dictatorship then? You don't seem to understand the need for a free thinking HoKs that will independently assess the proposals before them. Already most are under the financial reward of being 'good boys and girls' and now they are ti be further curtailed in what they can write on a fatuous blog on Facebook?

Switch it off, try PornHub!!!

Claiming they're all "independents" as if it might somehow isolate Callister's behaviour from the rest of them is a nonsense.

They're all members of Tynwald and with that should come a level of gravitas and decorum as befits a high level of public office. OK it's Toyland but these clowns are in charge of health, education, policing etc etc - stuff that matters!

Corkill was mired in a grants scandal but he hung on by his fingernails until he had to go. The puking on the bus incident should have been instant dismissal because it showed a complete lack of respect for the position held. Quayle and Charters etc etc.

It's just pathetic...

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36 minutes ago, ecobob said:

What if it’s not ego. What if it’s really just that he can’t see the truth. What if he’s actually trying really really hard and really does believe he’s doing the right thing? Some people get fixated on a certain point of view and cannot look beyond it. We’ve got some on here. Of course you could be right and maybe he is just a self absorbed ego maniac. I’m just tying to be kind and play devil’s advocate I guess. 

You're probably right about it just being inappropriate 'over-sharing' rather than egomania.  And it's certainly not Quayle's job to tell him about looking stupid, mainly because he's hardly one to talk, himself.  But that's what friends are for, surely?  Maybe they are actually interested in his holidays and don't realise that is a minority view. 

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10 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Oh sociopaths and psychopaths have those traits as well.  It's just that sociopaths tend to be more manipulative.  They understand, they 'know what buttons to press', they just don't really care about the consequences for other people.

All Cluster B personality disordered types display those traits, psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, borderline personality disorders, anti social, histrionic, they all follow the same modus operandi more or less but at different levels of the spectrum and with the hope of different outcomes. Sociopaths and psychopaths are indeed more manipulative and calculated. Some act on a primeval instinct to avoid shame. I’ve known many narcissists who have no idea what they are, they act purely on instinct -  but not all of course  It’s a fascinating subject. Unless you find yourself embroiled with one - or two. 

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32 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Who else should they also be reigning in and consciously protecting? Harmer? Moorhouse? Cregeen? They all make complete tits out of themselves. How is Callister a special case? They have no duty to protect anyone. They’re all independents and therefore responsible to themselves for the way they project themselves to the public. If they get it wrong tough. 

Yes. You’re right. All of those you’ve mentioned are an embarrassment and they also run free and unhindered - or st least so it seems. :/

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12 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

You're probably right about it just being inappropriate 'over-sharing' rather than egomania.  And it's certainly not Quayle's job to tell him about looking stupid, mainly because he's hardly one to talk, himself.  But that's what friends are for, surely?  Maybe they are actually interested in his holidays and don't realise that is a minority view. 

Perhaps we are the minority. Perhaps it is us who live in a bubble and not they. But somehow I doubt it. 

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8 hours ago, P.K. said:

Claiming they're all "independents" as if it might somehow isolate Callister's behaviour from the rest of them is a nonsense.

Who said that? It’s the opposite in that you can’t expect one person to receive special treatment as some sort of special needs case when other independent politicians seem to frequently embarrass themselves on social media too as well. It’s not the CMs responsibility when they’re all independents. They aren’t his party members. They are responsible for their own social media output as independent politicians affiliated to no centralized political party. 

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1 minute ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Who said that? It’s the opposite in that you can’t expect one person to receive special treatment as some sort of special needs case when other independent politicians seem to frequently embarrass themselves on social media too as well. It’s just that one seems to be especially good at it. It’s not the CMs responsibility when they’re all independents. They aren’t his party members who he is responsible for. They are responsible for their own social media output.  

I said it.

The CM is ultimately responsible for ALL of their actions.

Sure without a "sweetener" being paid then the CM has little by means of leverage but there's nothing stopping him from having a few words with some folks about their behaviour.

Or a lot of words in some cases....

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7 hours ago, P.K. said:

I said it.

The CM is ultimately responsible for ALL of their actions.

Sure without a "sweetener" being paid then the CM has little by means of leverage but there's nothing stopping him from having a few words with some folks about their behaviour.

Or a lot of words in some cases....

Callister isn’t even a Minister. He has no responsibility as part of COMIN so the answer is “no”. What could the CM possibly be responsible for in terms of advice to a back bencher? I’d stretch it perhaps that the CM has some sort of vicarious responsibility for the conduct of Ministers who form part of his Cabinet of Ministers. But back benchers?

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8 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

He's his own worst enemy isn't he?[1]  In his last week's blog entry, he said:

Which was followed by reams of 'What I did on my holidays' type writing which makes him sound like a particularly needy nine-year-old.  And even more in this week's entry.

There's just no need for it.  A simple statement as to the dates of his holiday, plus who constituents could contact in an emergency would be enough.  Maybe a few reflections on what he saw on his return prompted by what he saw that related to how other places handle certain things.  But the rest is stuff that only your nearest and dearest will be interested in and could be kept for private Facebook accounts or similar.

 

[1]  Cries of "Not while I'm alive, he ain't" from several MF regulars.  You know who you are.

Monday was a day of sitting in Keflavik airport, waiting to jump on a flight to Seattle, Washington. The flight left at 17.05 local time (Iceland) or 18.05 in the Isle of Man and we arrived in Seattle, Washington for 17.50 (local time) or 02.00 in Isle of Man time.

The guy is clearly unhinged, who on earth writes a blog like this? This bloke thank god is so useless at making decisions he has no effect politically. Imagine if he did have a brain cell, rubbing against his skull that single brain cell would still be dangerous energy.   I have an immediate sympathy for who ever has to sit next to him in Tynwald, it must be an endurance to say the least.  He is on par with Cretney for biggin  himself up. 

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8 hours ago, buncha wankas said:

Monday was a day of sitting in Keflavik airport, waiting to jump on a flight to Seattle, Washington. The flight left at 17.05 local time (Iceland) or 18.05 in the Isle of Man and we arrived in Seattle, Washington for 17.50 (local time) or 02.00 in Isle of Man time.

That’s really the sort of thing I objected to when I first read it. It’s nonsensical and pretty much gloating: like look at me I’m on a big plane leaving a city you’ve never even heard of. I’m a big boy! Actually on the point of information I also think it’s insulting the way he over explains what country it is and what time zone relative to the IOM it is just in case the reader is so unbelievably thick that they can’t work it out. 

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I don't really mind his blogs. If that's how he wants to spend his holiday, it's not my place to tell him not to. 

I also think that Groundskeeper Willy is putting an unfair spin on the whole time zone thing. Rob's not being insulting to the reader or the places he visits, he's just being Rob. Unfortunately, Rob is boring and lacks insight, so he visits a wonderful country like Iceland and sits in the airport and thinks about timezones. 

It's so weird that a Member of Tynwald visits the Þingvellir and doesn't seem to feel or think anything. 

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Indeed. And that fits with my comment that it’s not ego, it’s not playing the big I am, it’s just him being him and that this is all he is capable of. He has no idea that his writings are, well, boring to the majority of the population. To him numbers, binary, black - white, facts are king. All things things that make a political blog interesting are missing. It makes me more sad than it does angry. My anger such as it is is the impression it gives to the outer world but, as TSoS has pointed out, he’s not the only member to bring embarrassing and cringeworthy statements to the House and beyond. 

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I'd like to see his blogs continue, especially when he becomes Chief Minister. Go MHK Rob, I'm rooting for you, you're amazing.

 

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