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I wonder how this is going to be worked around....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/27/all-new-uk-cars-to-have-speed-limiters-by-2022-under-eu-plans

doubtless IOMG will play the “we are special” card and seek some sort of EU dispensation where the software is disabled, or we change all our speed limit signs to Roman numerals. That will show them!

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2 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

I wonder how this is going to be worked around....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/27/all-new-uk-cars-to-have-speed-limiters-by-2022-under-eu-plans

doubtless IOMG will play the “we are special” card and seek some sort of EU dispensation where the software is disabled, or we change all our speed limit signs to Roman numerals. That will show them!

It has no effect on de restricted roads. The equipment will be programmed appropriately. Assuming the EU satellite system realises we don’t have an upper limit.

My sat nav, built in and phone based, already flashes speed limit warnings, all over Europe, so someone is feeding in the general limits. 

No different to no limit autobhans?

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12 minutes ago, John Wright said:

It has no effect on de restricted roads. The equipment will be programmed appropriately. Assuming the EU satellite system realises we don’t have an upper limit.

My sat nav, built in and phone based, already flashes speed limit warnings, all over Europe, so someone is feeding in the general limits. 

No different to no limit autobhans?

This apparently is going to be on board software, camera based to read speed limit signs. So unless they do a write specifically for the IOM then when it sees a ‘National Speed Limit sign, it will restrict to 60,or 70 if it recognises a dual carriageway by counting lanes. It has to be a sign reader so that temp limits can be reacted to.

It will be interesting to see what they do with Autobahns, if they are now saying categorically that speed is indeed an issue...

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Just now, Derek Flint said:

This apparently is going to be on board software, camera based to read speed limit signs. So unless they do a write specifically for the IOM then when it sees a ‘National Speed Limit sign, it will restrict to 60,or 70 if it recognises a dual carriageway by counting lanes.

It will be interesting to see what they do with Autobahns, if they are now saying categorically that speed is indeed an issue...

It’ll be either or, or, more likely, one, assisted by the other, as I read it. 

You cant just categorise dual carriageways by number of lanes. There are some three lane duals in U.K., and a stretch or two of two lane motorways, and most EU motorways are two lanes, anyway.

They are going to have to write for lots of countries, even regions, with different speed limits, drink drive limits, etc. Not just IoM or Jersey or Guernsey.

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And will there be software to account for the wankers who drive at 25 mph in 50 mph zones, having no awareness of what the Highway Code says about “making progress”. I’d love to see software that actually caused the silly buggers’ cars to speed up.

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8 minutes ago, Uhtred said:

And will there be software to account for the wankers who drive at 25 mph in 50 mph zones, having no awareness of what the Highway Code says about “making progress”. I’d love to see software that actually caused the silly buggers’ cars to speed up.

Didn’t Toyota try that a few years ago?

 

#thecarinthecarinfront

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13 minutes ago, yorik said:

Didn’t Toyota try that a few years ago?

 

#thecarinthecarinfront

Actually I think they did...with, er...mixed results.

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Volvo's daylight running lights could be switched off, why anyone would bother I'm not sure. Wouldn't the same happen with this system, an electronic fix?

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8 minutes ago, Kopek said:

Volvo's daylight running lights could be switched off, why anyone would bother I'm not sure. Wouldn't the same happen with this system, an electronic fix?

From what I’ve read it’s similar to cruise control/speed limiters now. Override with a firm push down on the pedal or just disable when you start the car (will re-enable when you switch off and back on again)

It’s the data logging “black boxes” they’re also suggesting that will catch people out

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15 minutes ago, yorik said:

From what I’ve read it’s similar to cruise control/speed limiters now. Override with a firm push down on the pedal or just disable when you start the car (will re-enable when you switch off and back on again)

It’s the data logging “black boxes” they’re also suggesting that will catch people out

"1984" has finally arrived!

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2 hours ago, yorik said:

Didn’t Toyota try that a few years ago?

 

#thecarinthecarinfront

the MER tried it but it didn't go as well as hoped.

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12 hours ago, Derek Flint said:

I wonder how this is going to be worked around....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/27/all-new-uk-cars-to-have-speed-limiters-by-2022-under-eu-plans

doubtless IOMG will play the “we are special” card and seek some sort of EU dispensation where the software is disabled, or we change all our speed limit signs to Roman numerals. That will show them!

just needs '200'  instead of a white disc with a black line through it,  not many people will have their vehicle take over then.

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https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/higher-rate-of-death-of-serious-injury-on-manx-roads/

Today's article on Manx Radio shows that the latest data supports the fact that you are twice as likely to die or be seriously injured on Island roads when compared to the UK .

The picture is actually worse than that, when you take into account that average drivers in the UK travel considerably more miles per annum than the Manx average . Hence death and serious injury per miles travelled is several times higher on the Island . It will be interesting to see if the Government take any of this seriously enough to take action.

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31 minutes ago, emesde said:

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/higher-rate-of-death-of-serious-injury-on-manx-roads/

Today's article on Manx Radio shows that the latest data supports the fact that you are twice as likely to die or be seriously injured on Island roads when compared to the UK .

The picture is actually worse than that, when you take into account that average drivers in the UK travel considerably more miles per annum than the Manx average . Hence death and serious injury per miles travelled is several times higher on the Island . It will be interesting to see if the Government take any of this seriously enough to take action.

A difficult one without further analysis, many of the drivers killed or seriously injured on Manx roads are elderly and the narrow nature of our roads contributes to mistakes being made more easily. An analysis of speeds involved would also be helpful.

I find some of the other statistics such as drug deaths even more worrying!

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