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The 'Trans' Issue.

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7 minutes ago, woolley said:

Good idea. "Not" or perhaps "not yet" would seem to fit the bill.

a lot of angry right wingers would be upset at your use of the word "yet". Think about their wounded feelings before making your progressive suggestions.

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Only ever knew of one over here who was going to "transition". John / Jane the taxi driver.

The poor bloke ( who may or may not have had "issues") had to dress as a female for about a year before any cutting and chopping.

Saw him/her on Queens prom striding out like a farmer with a big suitcase in each hand wearing a nice floral dress. ( he was/is a big bloke).

I have no idea what goes on in peoples heads to kickstart this, but I always thought is was very sad to see a grown man going through this.

Saddest of all is that I believe he never went through with it, after probably being humiliated for a long time.

That must be so sad or confusing for the fella.:(

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Sausages said:

 

a lot of angry right wingers would be upset at your use of the word "yet". Think about their wounded feelings before making your progressive suggestions.

Sorry, porky, but I have to be true to my convictions. I can't curb my trailblazing social tendencies, even for you.

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5 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

Only ever knew of one over here who was going to "transition". John / Jane the taxi driver.

The poor bloke ( who may or may not have had "issues") had to dress as a female for about a year before any cutting and chopping.

Saw him/her on Queens prom striding out like a farmer with a big suitcase in each hand wearing a nice floral dress. ( he was/is a big bloke).

I have no idea what goes on in peoples heads to kickstart this, but I always thought is was very sad to see a grown man going through this.

Saddest of all is that I believe he never went through with it, after probably being humiliated for a long time.

That must be so sad or confusing for the fella.:(

This is a good point. There must be much grief caused by well-meaning but misguided and over zealous encouragement given by the rah-rah squad to people who are confused about their sexual identity, even at a very tender age.

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Just now, woolley said:

This is a good point. There must be much grief caused by well-meaning but misguided and over zealous encouragement given by the rah-rah squad to people who are confused about their sexual identity, even at a very tender age.

I often wonder if the people pushing this agenda are of the same ilk and going through the turmoil of the souls in the centre of this action. I doubt it TBH.

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1 minute ago, dilligaf said:

I often wonder if the people pushing this agenda are of the same ilk and going through the turmoil of the souls in the centre of this action. I doubt it TBH.

Not in the main. There will be a preponderance of lefty, beardy, do-gooding bandwagon jumpers to the fore as ever.

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Bird? Or bloke? Bloke, or bird, how the hell should i know, sorry i spoke, is it a bloke, is it a bird, haven't a clue mate, how absurd. bird, bloke, BIRD, BLOKE

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Those pushing this agenda are very likely to be middle-class and mainly solidly hetero, social justice warriors. You'll notice Mr. Sausages subliminal inference that if you're against it you're a rabid right-winger and chosing to select a small contextual error in my post to discredit my whole opinion. In the same way RIchard insinuated I was somehow a racist when I started the thread. Or any discussion or mention of islam and muslims he has me down as a greasy islamophobe. Name-calling and compartmentalisation, it's a cheap tactic for shutting down legitimate discussion by anti-bigotry bigots. 

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23 minutes ago, quilp said:

. You'll notice Mr. Sausages ... chosing to select a small contextual error in my post to discredit my whole opinion. 

I haven't referred to or commented on your opinion in any way whatsoever, you lying paranoid nut job. 

You claimed earlier that "the trans issue, with all it's complexities and possible effects on society, needs to be discussed without the finger-pointing and derogation" yet you're obviously incapable of that.

You fucked up, I pointed it out (with a very straight bat too). I know that hurt your feelings but you'll get over it precious.

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Not in the least bit offended by you pulling me up. It's your focus on the paltry pedantry whilst adding nothing to the thread that you indulge in so readily when you can't think of fuck all else to say.

"Lying paranoid nut-job." Fuck right off... 

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36 minutes ago, quilp said:

Name-calling and compartmentalisation, it's a cheap tactic for shutting down legitimate discussion by anti-bigotry bigots. 

Been that way for half a century and more. Think it's turning though, at last. Looked like it never would.

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2 minutes ago, quilp said:

Not in the least bit offended by you pulling me up. It's your focus on the paltry pedantry whilst adding nothing to the thread that you indulge in so readily when you can't think of fuck all else to say.

"Lying paranoid nut-job." Fuck right off... 

It's hardly paltry pedantry. You didn't know what the word meant and were ridiculing it, then accused me of not reading it. I'd say clearing up your lack of understanding was adding quite a lot, and helping you out in a topic you're clearly invested in. You're welcome. (If I was being a pedant I'd tell you to look up "contextual error", but that wouldn't add to the thread so I won't do that).

And no I don't have much more to say (other than my earlier post linking to a podcast which looked into the biology of sex change in detail for those genuinely interested in the subject. It's really very interesting) because I'm aware that I don't know that much about the subject.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Sausages said:

 

a lot of angry right wingers would be upset at your use of the word "yet". Think about their wounded feelings before making your progressive suggestions.

Have you considered changing your name to Ms Sausage? 

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