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https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/whistleblowing-policy-a-last-resort-says-chief-secretary/

Really? No I mean...really??

Sorry folks, but rubbish like this boils my piss. I know a number of people who had the careers either put on hold or wrecked because they have had the courage to report either bad behaviour or practices. 

In Government whistleblowing IS a last resort, because most sane sensible civil servants are too shit scared of the consequences! Fact.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Manx Bean said:

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/whistleblowing-policy-a-last-resort-says-chief-secretary/

Really? No I mean...really??

Sorry folks, but rubbish like this boils my piss. I know a number of people who had the careers either put on hold or wrecked because they have had the courage to report either bad behaviour or practices. 

In Government whistleblowing IS a last resort, because most sane sensible civil servants are too shit scared of the consequences! Fact.

Nobody is ever going to challenge the CS or get them in a position where any of their incompetence can ever be exposed. As you say in the meantime anyone with valid concerns is being churned and burned at their discretion .. because they can. 

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Don't expect many replies to this thread. The Isle of Man government know who you are and where you live.

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I know of someone who recently had his career wrecked and needed mental health care after pointing out the misdemeanors of his superior at one of our local government departments. Try telling him it was worth it!

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If anything ever needed an independent ombudsman, this is it.

There were a number of us in the cops who never believed our concerns were taken seriously.

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2 hours ago, Derek Flint said:

There were a number of us in the cops who never believed our concerns were taken seriously.

That's reassuring.

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There is a practice in the IoM CS of trying to discover who whilstleblowers are - in other places this is a crime, says it all.

 

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1 minute ago, craggy_steve said:

There is a practice in the IoM CS of trying to discover who whilstleblowers are - in other places this is a crime, says it all.

 

And your evidence of this is where?

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13 minutes ago, chancer said:

And your evidence of this is where?

Tynwald Select Committee. Makes it quite clear (and there was much more given in evidence than the little in the report) that senior officers felt it necessary to discover the identity of whistleblowers, for a variety of justifications http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=43631 - none of which are acceptable. You can trawl the full minutes of the select committee hearings if you wish.  

As for the acceptability of this elsewhere - it is unlawful in the US PS, the EU is currently looking at / preparing law to further strengthen whistleblower protection, and whilst you don't see many cases in the public domain it's unlawful in the UK finance sector https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/20/barclays-ceo-jes-staley-facing-fine-over-whistleblower-incident. It's simply unacceptable yet the officers giving evidence to the select committee made it clear the sometimes felt the need to know the identity, and could not guarantee anonymity.  Unacceptable in all circumstances at all times because it undermines the whistleblowing mechanism. 

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8 hours ago, Max Power said:

I know of someone who recently had his career wrecked and needed mental health care after pointing out the misdemeanors of his superior at one of our local government departments. Try telling him it was worth it!

As much as I agree with most of your posts, I find that very hard to believe, unless he was on the tipping point to start with.

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That's a comfortable stance for you to take dilli.

9 hours ago, Max Power said:

I know of someone who recently had his career wrecked and needed mental health care after pointing out the misdemeanors of his superior at one of our local government departments. Try telling him it was worth it!

The above post has 11 'likes' so far. Make of that what you will.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, gettafa said:

That's a comfortable stance for you to take dilli.

The above post has 11 'likes' so far. Make of that what you will.

 

 

I am not comfortable with it at all.

The CS has major flaws, I will admit and they need to be addressed asap. But at the same time, if people can't handle the heat, then they should vacate the kitchen.

If the odds are stacked against you, you move on.

That is all I am going to say.

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At a conservative geuss we are about 10x worse than Russia.

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Just now, finlo said:

At a conservative geuss we are about 10x worse than Russia.

But most of them can spell.

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2 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

I am not comfortable with it at all.

The CS has major flaws, I will admit and they need to be addressed asap. But at the same time, if people can't handle the heat, then they should vacate the kitchen.

 If the odds are stacked against you, you move on.

That is all I am going to say.

In the case of a genuine whistleblower the odds should never be stacked against them, for any reason, ever. If there is a culture in CS that inhibits whistleblowing or demeans whistleblowers then it needs stamping out - even if we have to decimate the CS to achieve it. These brave folk who report / expose wrongdoing at potential risk to themselves need protecting as a minimum, and where possible (if they're not anonymous) lauding for their contribution to improving matters. Nobody should suffer "heat" for the genuine exposure of wrongdoing.

Also, not everyone can move on. There are plenty of folk working in unique jobs on this island - "moving on" can imply leaving the island, uprooting or leaving family, or discarding a career of self-development in a particular specialism. Such consequences are not acceptable reward for exposing wrongs.

With respect Dilli, my 2d.  

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