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Yachts aren't likely to hang around waiting for a 2.45am tide

They'll be moored up somewhere else & everyone asleep after an evening in the pub

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9 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

Not many sail at night

This is a nonsense. Loads of things sail at night. Its worth it. Stars, so many stars, bioluminescent plankton, aurora. Its amazing sailing at night.

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Not yachts

Sailing at night is quite difficult, especially with the amount of shipping in the Irish Sea

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39 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

Why?

As Albert says, there is the revenue from vessels in transit (and most want to 'overnight' at least) - that is income for not just the marina, but also local shops, pubs restaurants etc.

In addition, there are many islanders who would base a boat here were decent facilities to exist - but they simply do not exist at the modern standards taken for granted elsewhere. Our berth on the West Coast of Scotland costs just under £10k per annum - that's £60k of income since we moved here that could have gone to the Island but does not simply because of inadequate facilities.

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5 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

Not yachts

Sailing at night is quite difficult, especially with the amount of shipping in the Irish Sea

We regularly sail at night as it happens. As Teapot says, it can be beautiful - fog and gales are a different kettle but you have to take the rough with the smooth (literally!).

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Very brave

Having a massive nightime Ireland to Scotland fast craft bearing down on you at high speed is one of those life enhancing experiences that a person should not miss

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3 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

Very brave

Having a massive nightime Ireland to Scotland fast craft bearing down on you at high speed is one of those life enhancing experiences that a person should not miss

It's difficult to cross Biscay or the Atlantic in daylight hours only! :D

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Oh yes, but less chance of being run down

I do know people who sail around the coast of Spain & France rather than do the crossing!

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7 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

Oh yes, but less chance of being run down

I do know people who sail around the coast of Spain & France rather than do the crossing!

True to a degree, 40 years ago we did not spot a single other vessel on a transatlantic run (arrival/departure excepted) - Have a look on MarineTraffic at the ships crossing the pond today :o

https://www.marinetraffic.com

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I don’t believe the issue is about sailing overnight.  Many boats are family operated and they want to be able to moor and go ashore on arrival at a port.  To arrive at Peel or Douglas half an hour after the flapgate has been raised is not acceptable to many skippers when planning a trip, so they go elsewhere.  A marina with 24 hour access is therefore essential for the island. In addition, for boat owners on the island, the flapgate restrictions can regularly be a real inconvenience.

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4 minutes ago, Cypman said:

I don’t believe the issue is about sailing overnight.  Many boats are family operated and they want to be able to moor and go ashore on arrival at a port.  To arrive at Peel or Douglas half an hour after the flapgate has been raised is not acceptable to many skippers when planning a trip, so they go elsewhere.  A marina with 24 hour access is therefore essential for the island. In addition, for boat owners on the island, the flapgate restrictions can regularly be a real inconvenience.

Agreed 100%

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33 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Well I've sailed on a yacht at night in the Irish sea. 

Done it when it was light/dark and foggy/misty. Day time was the worst crossing the shipping lane coming up from south wales and 3 of us looking out for other vessels. Poop your poop deck when one of those big NI ferries appears right in front of you out of the gloom.

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I heard it being claimed that income from this proposal would be in the region of £1m per year.

The construction costs must be mega millions, so surely the payback will take too many years for it to be viable.

Another problem seems to be that it will leave a seaside town without a seaside?

Where will locals and visitors have to go to find a beach?

 

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