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1 hour ago, Billy One Mate said:

Government have gone away from the JCT form of contract in most instances and use the NEC3 form of contract. 

A quick google indicates NEC3 would cover much the same ground - performance bonds, low performance damages, limits on liability and compensation events all nice and clear. 

So it should be pretty easy for the government to clarify who exactly is going to carry the can for this right?

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27 minutes ago, Manx Bean said:

Well, I can honestly say this project now qualifies officially for a WTAF?! 

I've seen whole bloody waterparks in Spain built in less time....and yes, quality builds too.

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/nsc-flumes-not-yet-opened/

Jon Moss yet again proving he’s an automaton. 

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On 8/21/2019 at 10:55 PM, maynragh said:

A quick google indicates NEC3 would cover much the same ground - performance bonds, low performance damages, limits on liability and compensation events all nice and clear. 

So it should be pretty easy for the government to clarify who exactly is going to carry the can for this right?

Absolutely spot on but I’m afraid Joe Public will never be told the truth and if anybody actually took the time to ask ‘commerciality’ would be brought to the fore to keep it all hidden.

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If anyone is going to Turkey on one of these budget holidays perhaps they could bring the flumes back with them, obviously they would have to be dismantled and then put together again but it is just a thought, perhaps a few MHKs could go I can think of a few that would not be missed.

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6 hours ago, Billy One Mate said:

Absolutely spot on but I’m afraid Joe Public will never be told the truth and if anybody actually took the time to ask ‘commerciality’ would be brought to the fore to keep it all hidden.

I'm pretty certain all IoM Government contrscts are either NEC3 or NEC4 depending on the date of the contract.

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7 hours ago, Billy One Mate said:

Absolutely spot on but I’m afraid Joe Public will never be told the truth and if anybody actually took the time to ask ‘commerciality’ would be brought to the fore to keep it all hidden.

I thought the excuse of 'commercial confidentiality' had now been expunged in this type of situation after the 'bus contract' FOIs...

Information Commissioner Iain McDonald noted: ’Public authorities are expected to be accountable and transparent where considerable expenditure is incurred. Improving public awareness of how public money is spent, and the integrity of those expenditure decisions, are drivers of the FoI Act.

’The public expects value for money - any assessment of whether public services offer value for money cannot be ascertained without knowledge of the cost.’

Same would apply here no? Or has this position been overruled since?

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So word gets to me from a very reliable source that there has been an almighty fuck up. 

According to my source the adjustable floor does not work and is stuck. Therefore there is no shallow end. Also there is a centre boom down the pool which is also completely stuck which they then cannot remove for racing. Thus no official galas can be done at the pool. A upcoming gala is in jeopardy and they are sending athletes away to compete instead. 

Add this to the already flumes which don’t fit and we have the classic government clusterfuck. 

Two years more or less this debacle has been going on and no nearer being completed. I think £4m was the cost. 

A whole generation of children and parents are missing out on this and it’s a National Disgrace. 

Time some media outlets put this government to the sword and Heads should role. 

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12 minutes ago, Gizo said:

So word gets to me from a very reliable source that there has been an almighty fuck up. 

According to my source the adjustable floor does not work and is stuck. Therefore there is no shallow end. Also there is a centre boom down the pool which is also completely stuck which they then cannot remove for racing. Thus no official galas can be done at the pool. A upcoming gala is in jeopardy and they are sending athletes away to compete instead. 

Add this to the already flumes which don’t fit and we have the classic government clusterfuck. 

Two years more or less this debacle has been going on and no nearer being completed. I think £4m was the cost. 

A whole generation of children and parents are missing out on this and it’s a National Disgrace. 

Time some media outlets put this government to the sword and Heads should role. 

They couldn’t organize a piss up in a swimming pool. 

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22 minutes ago, Gizo said:

So word gets to me from a very reliable source that there has been an almighty fuck up. 

According to my source the adjustable floor does not work and is stuck. Therefore there is no shallow end. Also there is a centre boom down the pool which is also completely stuck which they then cannot remove for racing. Thus no official galas can be done at the pool. A upcoming gala is in jeopardy and they are sending athletes away to compete instead. 

Add this to the already flumes which don’t fit and we have the classic government clusterfuck. 

Two years more or less this debacle has been going on and no nearer being completed. I think £4m was the cost. 

A whole generation of children and parents are missing out on this and it’s a National Disgrace. 

Time some media outlets put this government to the sword and Heads should role. 

It may feel like forever (and of course it's still going on) but the Pools only closed last August for what was supposed to be a £4.2 million refit "with re-opening scheduled for May 2019, prior to the TT period".  It would be interesting to know exactly who was in charge of the project.

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I think NK Joinery are the contractors, they did say that they had never managed anything such as this during a radio interview? I imagine that they will have subcontracted in specialists?

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58 minutes ago, Max Power said:

I think NK Joinery are the contractors, they did say that they had never managed anything such as this during a radio interview? I imagine that they will have subcontracted in specialists?

Begs the question why were they awarded the work if they had no direct experience in this specialist field?

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I'm sure I've seen the floor at different depths (but I could be mistaken).  It was at 1.15m earlier in the week.  Not sure about the boom's operational status.

To add to the list, though, the smell of stagnant drain water at the start/finish end at water level is a new "feature" of the refit which I'm not too keen on.

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