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I thought they kept them and only the metal hold up bits needed to be replaced. We will never know though , DOI did a great job again.

Anyone  remember Harry Enfields ‘ I saw you coming shop ‘? Welcome to DOI. Is that infrastructure is some other word.

These are slides made of cheap plastic - how?

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Alf Cannan , in case you haven't realised , you are the treasury minister and holding the purse strings. How about you rattle some cages and call a halt to this continued wasting of money in all the d

My 4 year old boy said he is looking forward to trying out the new slides for his 18th birthday party.

I can only describe it as pitiful ! The whole shower of sh1t wouldn't last five minutes in the real world. They operate in a world where money has no meaning because us idiots keep supplying it for th

From what I am told by a good friend in the building industry the problem lies with Consultants - A lack of them nowadays on the island!

Apparently a few years ago the IOM gov decided to take most design and contract admin in house and from what i am told this is the kind of clusterfuc* result. 

Any decent consultant would have drawn up a watertight contract that would have put the responsibility on the main contractor to measure and get the size right for the flumes. Apparently the type of contracts that come out of the Attorney Generals offices for things like this look like they have been written by children then put in a drawer full of moths, there are that many holes in them.

I know we like to slag consultants but they will over time save the client money by specifying the right materials/ methods and also make sure the contract is water tight. If they mess up they carry insurance and dont just say they will "Learn from their mistakes"......

It is another case of gov civil servants building empires and being over confident of their abilities to run jobs like this or similar.

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19 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

From what I am told by a good friend in the building industry the problem lies with Consultants - A lack of them nowadays on the island!

Apparently a few years ago the IOM gov decided to take most design and contract admin in house and from what i am told this is the kind of clusterfuc* result. 

Any decent consultant would have drawn up a watertight contract that would have put the responsibility on the main contractor to measure and get the size right for the flumes. Apparently the type of contracts that come out of the Attorney Generals offices for things like this look like they have been written by children then put in a drawer full of moths, there are that many holes in them.

I know we like to slag consultants but they will over time save the client money by specifying the right materials/ methods and also make sure the contract is water tight. If they mess up they carry insurance and dont just say they will "Learn from their mistakes"......

It is another case of gov civil servants building empires and being over confident of their abilities to run jobs like this or similar.

Bollocks 

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1 hour ago, Boris Johnson said:

From what I am told by a good friend in the building industry the problem lies with Consultants - A lack of them nowadays on the island!

Apparently a few years ago the IOM gov decided to take most design and contract admin in house and from what i am told this is the kind of clusterfuc* result. 

Any decent consultant would have drawn up a watertight contract that would have put the responsibility on the main contractor to measure and get the size right for the flumes. Apparently the type of contracts that come out of the Attorney Generals offices for things like this look like they have been written by children then put in a drawer full of moths, there are that many holes in them.

I know we like to slag consultants but they will over time save the client money by specifying the right materials/ methods and also make sure the contract is water tight. If they mess up they carry insurance and dont just say they will "Learn from their mistakes"......

It is another case of gov civil servants building empires and being over confident of their abilities to run jobs like this or similar.

You're wrong

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Fair enough , but perhaps a good question to ask would have been ‘ have you refurbed a swimming pool before if not what experience do you have to make you think you can? ‘
 

Or ‘Have you done a huge road building project before if not what experience do you have to make you think you can ? ‘
 

Or , well how hard can it be we’ll give it a go.

The IOM - where you can’t. 

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1 hour ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Why have we paid out another two hundred grand to the manufacturer then? 

No, I totally agree it's a shit storm and that it should never have happened. 

What is bollocks is the rose tinted view of consultants. Pretty much all Government jobs (this one included I'm sure) involve highly paid consultants,  and they still go monumentally wrong. 

The only thing consultants are good at by and large is covering their own ass.

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2 hours ago, Boris Johnson said:

From what I am told by a good friend in the building industry the problem lies with Consultants - A lack of them nowadays on the island!

Apparently a few years ago the IOM gov decided to take most design and contract admin in house and from what i am told this is the kind of clusterfuc* result. 

It's a long-standing problem, but it seems to be getting worse.  Consultant's are never used where they ought to be - for supplying specialist skills that aren't available on the Island.  Instead the favoured consultants are brought in to supply whatever solution the government wants, but doesn't have the guts to propose themselves.

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11 hours ago, Anyone said:

You could build a pretty decent house for £227,000 but I suppose not a plastic one. And I thought they already had the plastic. However , no one is to blame as it might upset a civil servant.

It's certainly a mighty cost, as you say equivalent to a lower end Dandara offering to include land, materials and labour. The slides are/were plastic/grp sections and the supporting steel framework. Clearly they must be of exceptional quality?

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17 hours ago, yootalkin2me said:

What...the...actual...f@$k is this, we're all taxpayers, the person or people should be held accountable, if it's a 'one off' mistake then we all make mistakes, however, it it's down to constant incomptence, corruption and lack of management or all of the above then that needs, and must, be exposed so as to ensure no repeats in the future.

It's the word accountable that doesn't appear in the islands governance playbook ! It is dispiriting to watch taxpayers money repeatedly poured away with no one ever responsible and held to account. Any PAC enquiry finishes up the same way with basically a long report which can be summed up as "lessons have been learned", except of course they never are and we move on to the next money wasting scheme.

We have a hugely costly Government and civil service machine to administrate 85k people and their needs, and it fails to deliver on almost every front and wastes millions in doing so !

Whether this is a failure of leadership across the board is debatable, but it most certainly is a failure of accountability. You can abrogate responsibility to others, but you can't do the same with accountability.

 

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