Rab 16 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) I have recently passed my motorcycle test. I have been a car driver for 40+ years. I now have to display R plates on the motorcycle for 1yr, restricting me to max 50mph. Next month I am visiting the UK, and will be driving on Motorways. Am I still restricted to 50mph, and do I still need the R Plates whilst driving there? I have obviously Googled the question, but seem to be receiving conflicting advice. Any advice welcome. Edited March 21, 2019 by Rab Spelling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,356 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rab said: I have recently passed my motorcycle test. I have been a car driver for 40+ years. I now have to display R plates on the motorcycle for 1yr, restricting me to max 50mph. Next month I am visiting the UK, and will be driving on Motorways. Am I still restricted to 50mph, and do I still need the R Plates whilst driving there? I have obviously Googled the question, but seem to be receiving conflicting advice. Any advice welcome. Don't waste your time asking on "social" media. Ask the police. ( unless Flinty sees your post.) Even PM him. He's a decent bloke and will put you right. Edited March 21, 2019 by dilligaf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil Down 7,939 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Don't waste your time asking on "social" media. Ask the police. ( unless Flinty sees your post.) Even PM him. He's a decent bloke and will put you right. Why, what could possibly go wrong asking the “experts” on here... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,356 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Neil Down said: 22 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Don't waste your time asking on "social" media. Ask the police. ( unless Flinty sees your post.) Even PM him. He's a decent bloke and will put you right. Why, what could possibly go wrong asking the “experts” on here... "manxy" probably has the answer. ( hide in the hedge, they are out to get you ) Edited March 21, 2019 by dilligaf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil Down 7,939 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, dilligaf said: "manxy" probably has the answer. ( hide in the hedge, they are out to get you ) Or “down my manor Barry”... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GD4ELI 2,734 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, Rab said: Any advice welcome. For your own safety stay off the motorways on a bike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,356 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, GD4ELI said: For your own safety stay off the motorways on a bike. For the win Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Wright 7,859 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Requirements, such as driving age, licence categories, P plates, depend on two things when you are in a “foreign” country to the one that issued your licence. 1. Documentation issued at home limits driving categories, driving age, to the extent that the the foreign requirements aren’t different. 2. The law of where you are actually driving covers things like P plates, higher minimum age, etc. So, a manx person who passed their test at 16, couldn’t drive in U.K. until 17, or Sweden until 18. If your licence in IoM restricts you to a weight limit, but elsewhere you could drive a greater weight, that’s moot, but if the foreign weight limit is lower you are limited to that lower limit. P plates in U.K. are voluntary. R plates are Manx and have no meaning in UK. The Manx legislation has no extra territorial effect. My nephew had a NZ licence, it was less than 6 months since he’d passed his test so in NZ only allowed to carry one adult passenger, no car full of teens. None of those restrictions here. How could Manx courts enforce. Its no different to the position where people disqualified in IoM could drive in U.K. the minute they got off the boat, as long as they had a valid licence issued outside the Island. It’s why lots of people had a GB licence as well, and after that an Irish one, (after IoM U.K. reciprocal driving disqualification came in) so they could drive outside IoM or U.K. Its reflected in the fact that if you are banned in IoM on a U.K. licence and told you can’t drive until you’ve passed your test, that bit only applies to the Island. You can drive in U.K. without retaking your test when your ban expires. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,356 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, John Wright said: R plates are Manx and have no meaning in UK. The Manx legislation has no extra territorial effect. I don't actually believe that to be the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
display name 617 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rab said: I have recently passed my motorcycle test. I have been a car driver for 40+ years. I now have to display R plates on the motorcycle for 1yr, restricting me to max 50mph. . Am I still restricted to 50mph, and do I still need the R Plates whilst driving there? No and No. R plates will need to be reapplied before returning,but no 50mph restriction applies whilst in England. For your own peace of mind: DVLA driver licensing enquiries Telephone: 0300 790 6801 Monday to Friday, 8am to 7pm Saturday, 8am to 2pm Find out about call charges Edited March 21, 2019 by display name Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Derek Flint 4,028 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 All good advice above -especially JW’s comprehensive reply. Just be bloody careful. isnt it ironic though, in our speed-obsessed culture, you have to go across to the UK to exceed 50! have a good trip. D 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtred 9,887 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) What is the UK “P” plate referred to by John? Edited to add - it’s ok I’ve found the answer via Google. And it’s a little paradoxical...P is the same as our R...it’s displayed in the vehicle for 12 months after the driver passes their test. But it actually stands for “Provisional”. Well that’s bloody stupid, given that you have a provisional licence before you pass your test! For once, we’ve opted for a more sensible designator; R for Restricted. The P is daft, and confusing. Edited March 22, 2019 by Uhtred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtred 9,887 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Duplicate post removed. Edited March 22, 2019 by Uhtred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emesde 93 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, Uhtred said: What is the UK “P” plate referred to by John? Edited to add - it’s ok I’ve found the answer via Google. And it’s a little paradoxical...P is the same as our R...it’s displayed in the vehicle for 12 months after the driver passes their test. But it actually stands for “Provisional”. Well that’s bloody stupid, given that you have a provisional licence before you pass your test! For once, we’ve opted for a more sensible designator; R for Restricted. The P is daft, and confusing. In some countries it does stand for Provisional and is used by drivers with a Provisional licence . However in the UK it = P = Probationary driver (indicating you are a fairly new qualified driver) and may be used if the driver wants to and for no set period of time ....purely voluntary . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtred 9,887 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, emesde said: In some countries it does stand for Provisional and is used by drivers with a Provisional licence . However in the UK it = P = Probationary driver (indicating you are a fairly new qualified driver) and may be used if the driver wants to and for no set period of time ....purely voluntary . Thanks for the clarification. Odd that it’s voluntary? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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