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It's as if they have gone past the point of no return and going to carry on regardless. Feckin eejits, the lot of them

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I've explained this before Derek. From a friend working for a firm who is responsible for lots of services  , not Auldyn etc , while they had a concept plan from day one ie what the finished job would

It's not Harmer's direct fault. Nor any of those we elect. APART from not having the departmental and relevant experience and balls to stand up to and question the reams of bullshitters and chanc

But the problem isn't the horse trams.  It's the corporate culture of the Manx civil service.  Rather than accept the reality of what their main job is, which is maintain existing structures in the mo

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16 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

It's as if they have gone past the point of no return and going to carry on regardless. Feckin eejits, the lot of them

I'm in agreement to this. It's almost a case of head in the sand . I said quite early in this debacle that a halt needed to be called by Quayle and the likes ,heads banged together and it sorted and a reslistic time scale and staff levels on site to get the job done efficently and with the least disruption . When Quayle was asked about the Promenade at the time of Princess Anne's visit he laughed and said Ohhh yes the Prom and that was that ..nothing from him since . Quite sad really has he clearly hasn't the backbone to sort it out ... 

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1 hour ago, Numbnuts said:

I'm in agreement to this. It's almost a case of head in the sand . I said quite early in this debacle that a halt needed to be called by Quayle and the likes ,heads banged together and it sorted and a reslistic time scale and staff levels on site to get the job done efficently and with the least disruption . When Quayle was asked about the Promenade at the time of Princess Anne's visit he laughed and said Ohhh yes the Prom and that was that ..nothing from him since . Quite sad really has he clearly hasn't the backbone to sort it out ... 

He hasn’t a backbone at all

 

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He must have something, to support all that mass when it's out of the water...

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Open questions need to be asked in House of Keys and Tynwald. It will focus the minds.

It's far too easy for these guys to fanny about with Brexit and Climate Change and all that sort of bollocks.

The Promenade isn't sexy and it doesn't involve ego boosting meaningless trips to Westminster but it has to be got a grip of.

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No open questions asked in Tynwald. Or anything remotely resembling, dodged and avoided. 

#clubtynwald - since AD979

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2 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

This being the same Tim Baker who's been in DOI infrastructure post for all of five minutes.

Like a chick in the nest, unquestioning beak wide open, being fed bullshit by his Departmental mandarins.

Baker is a fully signed up member of the junior CoMin Club. He's hoping to become a fully fledged member after the next election. I don't think he's voted against a CoMin motion yet.

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7 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

Wonder why Onchan’s champion isn’t all over this?

 

He can't. He's in Enterprise and they are involved in the Prom works via the grants scheme so he's conflicted. That is why he isn't involved in the investigation into the Prom by the environment and infrastructure committee which he chairs. He was rather upset about it on one his blogs a few months back probably because he saw it as a vote winner.

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It's the usual thing. If one of them raises words against the government the government just use taxpayer money and stuffs their mouths with gold.

Oh, they can stop the gravy train alright, but usually just long enough to hop aboard.

 

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Could it actually get any worse !! So all that fuss and expense to have two tram tracks would seen a complete waste as they ' forgot' or whatever to include signals to enable it to happen.  So now maybe it's one tram at any one time on the tracks .. how long for a journey up and down  the prom  ! Some service this is going to be .unbelievable really .Bet the powers that be are glad they started this  

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We are talking about f****ing horse trams here, not inter-city Express trains.  £800,000-1m WTF!??

Surely a simple flag system,  cost approx £150 would do. 

 

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I could never understand for the life of me that if we actually had to continue with the horse trams wwhy it wasn't just a single tram line, I mean for fuck sake, how many people are expected to go on the trams, even at peak summer time people would happily wait for the tram to return as long as the trams were running to time....we don't have millions using the tram each year!!

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They should have been at the home of rest on a little track so that people and kids could see and enjoy them in the company of other horsey people ! Not bringing the prom to be an utter cluster !! FFS heritage is fine but a loss making enterprise isn't going to pay anyones salary any time soon get a xxxxxxx grip !

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