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28 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

A lot of people think the heritage railways should be run by volunteers. I assume that the members of the MERS would be involved. Anyone a member? Here's a press release from them

https://mers.org.im/blog/articles/view/id/586/

[...]It is partly this crazy insistence that the horse trams stay open that has caused such delays. Closing it for a year to let the work get done would have been a better idea no?

[This] shows you that sometimes volunteer support groups are just as mental as the mental people in charge.

Well of course they have to keep in with the boss, though the transport management have often had a rather sniffy attitude to volunteers anyway.  But they do seem to be their own worse enemy.  The whole point of a heritage railway is to preserve things as they were, not add on whatever latest toy you fancy.  That would be like wanting a diesel locomotive to run on a steam railway.

So they should have been kicking up a fuss about curtailing the route, but also about trying to re-lay it so it could also be used for the MER and certainly about demolishing the old stables for no better reason that the DoI wanted to spend money.  By conniving in this pointless and expensive updating they are actually undermining their own case for preservation.  But I've noticed this with railway etc fans before - any spending on their field of interest is seen as an automatic good thing.  You get this with support for HS2 for instance.

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I'd say the whole Island is damaged by Ian Longworth :lol:

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Just off on a slight tangent but looking at the mess along the prom following the weekend weather, couldn't help but think a lot of the debris could be avoided quite easily

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1 hour ago, Neil Down said:

Just off on a slight tangent but looking at the mess along the prom following the weekend weather, couldn't help but think a lot of the debris could be avoided quite easily

say for instance, by putting a seawall up instead of railings? who'd guess?!

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Looking at lots of shredded sandbags along the Prom, then looking at the work going on to clear the masses of sand...... There is more than enough sand to fill lots more sandbags... But do it soon, before Storm Dennis comes rolling in.

There were loads of big stones, too. Anyone want to build a rock garden?

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32 minutes ago, b4mbi said:

say for instance, by putting a seawall up instead of railings? who'd guess?!

Of course that would help. What would be the cheaper option for the interim would be to run a bulldozer down the entire length of the prom from opposite the Villa to the Queens hotel. Put a two foot gap between the beach and the walkway. Won't stop the water but will reduce the number of rocks all over the prom.

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10 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

Of course that would help. What would be the cheaper option for the interim would be to run a bulldozer down the entire length of the prom from opposite the Villa to the Queens hotel. Put a two foot gap between the beach and the walkway. Won't stop the water but will reduce the number of rocks all over the prom.

Could probably be done for a fraction of the cost of bulldozing seaweed back into the sea every day too...

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1 hour ago, Neil Down said:

Of course that would help. What would be the cheaper option for the interim would be to run a bulldozer down the entire length of the prom from opposite the Villa to the Queens hotel. Put a two foot gap between the beach and the walkway. Won't stop the water but will reduce the number of rocks all over the prom.

I agree run a bulldozer the length of the prom and start again would be a good idea !

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2 hours ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

I saw a worker by the Spar today trying to shovel water into a wheelbarrow. 

Tremendous scenes. 

Well somebody has to do it.... :)

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2 hours ago, Neil Down said:

Of course that would help. What would be the cheaper option for the interim would be to run a bulldozer down the entire length of the prom from opposite the Villa to the Queens hotel. Put a two foot gap between the beach and the walkway. Won't stop the water but will reduce the number of rocks all over the prom.

Amongst those clearing up yesterday there was a digger on the beach that managed to build a nice “ramp” so the sand & stone on the beach now gently slopes up to be level with the walkway :wacko:

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It now appears the existing gas main has been damaged/cocked up leading to their latest dig site being abandoned. 

If any visitor asks what's going on along the Prom this summer, I'm just telling them Tony Robinson and the Time Team are in town.

https://www.facebook.com/2163403463905849/posts/2505913286321530/

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The most incredible thing about the Promenade is that the obvious and complete clusterfuck that is going on there is still being presented as a Scheme. The only people they are fooling are the people that are happy to be fooled and sit in Tynwald.

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