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I've explained this before Derek. From a friend working for a firm who is responsible for lots of services  , not Auldyn etc , while they had a concept plan from day one ie what the finished job would

It's not Harmer's direct fault. Nor any of those we elect. APART from not having the departmental and relevant experience and balls to stand up to and question the reams of bullshitters and chanc

But the problem isn't the horse trams.  It's the corporate culture of the Manx civil service.  Rather than accept the reality of what their main job is, which is maintain existing structures in the mo

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Thanks for that Roger, but I have heard there is another firm called Matchtech who seem to have a lot of input into the DOI supplying them with the “ expertise “ they require to manage the prom and other projects If this I information is correct they have not got of to a very good start. I wonder how much money has left this Island on consultants without any Taxes or NI contributions.I would bet that they contribute nothing to the economy and take all they can get,

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Burroughs ran a 'ghost' office on the Island for long enough. 

I suppose it is called taking the piss, but the Isle of Man Government didn't seem to care. There have been questions in the House about all the money flowing to the consultant, but Tony Brown the then Chief Minister then, was never one to admit the Government were more than a little dozey.

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27 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said:

Thanks for that Roger, but I have heard there is another firm called Matchtech who seem to have a lot of input into the DOI supplying them with the “ expertise “ they require to manage the prom and other projects If this I information is correct they have not got of to a very good start. I wonder how much money has left this Island on consultants without any Taxes or NI contributions.I would bet that they contribute nothing to the economy and take all they can get,

Matchtech appear to be an 'engineering recruitment specialist', so they may have just been involved in sourcing extra people (there are currently three jobs) and possibly providing services for contractor.  They are also part of the Gattaca[1] Group, which does project management, but not in civil engineering that I can see.

 

[1]  A classic case of choosing a company name because it sounds cool without picking up all the cultural references.

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2 hours ago, gettafa said:

It's one big fuck up. The contractor is out of control as no one on the employer's side (the Government) has a fucking clue how to control them. The money will just keep pouring out of the coffers.

The Isle of Man Government needs to employ someone to get a grip of the contract.

If they already have then they need to fuck 'em off and get someone else.

(please excuse the effin' and blindin')

I admire your restraint...

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I liked this: https://www.burroughs.co.uk/douglas-promenade-annual-light-rail-awards/

Lol.

'Douglas Promenade Horse Tramway Renovation has been awarded ‘Highly Commended’ within the Project of the Year under 50m Euro category at the annual Light Rail Awards. Burroughs are delighted to have been involved in the project as Project Manager and Rail Engineer, working with the Isle of Man Government and Auldyn Construction. The project involved the renovation of 2.5km of promenade along the coast of Douglas, Isle of Man'


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3 minutes ago, slinkydevil said:

I liked this: https://www.burroughs.co.uk/douglas-promenade-annual-light-rail-awards/

Lol.

'Douglas Promenade Horse Tramway Renovation has been awarded ‘Highly Commended’ within the Project of the Year under 50m Euro category at the annual Light Rail Awards. Burroughs are delighted to have been involved in the project as Project Manager and Rail Engineer, working with the Isle of Man Government and Auldyn Construction. The project involved the renovation of 2.5km of promenade along the coast of Douglas, Isle of Man'


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You'd have thought they would not want that accolade...

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1 hour ago, slinkydevil said:

I liked this: https://www.burroughs.co.uk/douglas-promenade-annual-light-rail-awards/

Lol.

'Douglas Promenade Horse Tramway Renovation has been awarded ‘Highly Commended’ within the Project of the Year under 50m Euro category at the annual Light Rail Awards. Burroughs are delighted to have been involved in the project as Project Manager and Rail Engineer, working with the Isle of Man Government and Auldyn Construction. The project involved the renovation of 2.5km of promenade along the coast of Douglas, Isle of Man'


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Have I missed something or been sleeping and missed that it's finished ! 

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The companies doing the work (without actually doing much work) have copped on, very early on, that this is the biggest contract of their lives. So what if the common people are disgruntled? In a few decades, everybody would have forgotten what a shambles this has all been, while their families' futures are all set up to be very comfortable. I'm told it's all gonna look so good, tourists would love to visit, until you realise it's so much cheaper to visit other countries, with better food, culture, and weather, for less than half the price.

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2 hours ago, slinkydevil said:

I liked this: https://www.burroughs.co.uk/douglas-promenade-annual-light-rail-awards/

Lol.

'Douglas Promenade Horse Tramway Renovation has been awarded ‘Highly Commended’ within the Project of the Year under 50m Euro category at the annual Light Rail Awards. Burroughs are delighted to have been involved in the project as Project Manager and Rail Engineer, working with the Isle of Man Government and Auldyn Construction. The project involved the renovation of 2.5km of promenade along the coast of Douglas, Isle of Man'


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We truly are the Island of Spun Bullshit.

Only here could 2 miles of seafront promenade in a major town (for the area) be reduced to a diorama from the siege of Leningrad and win an award as though it's a successfully completed project.

I'd bet there's a picture of this, proudly hanging on a DOI office wall to invite congratulations somewhere too.

Probably Harmer's.

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The Global Light Rail Awards are probably a bit like the IoM Excellence ones, where you nominate yourself. Pointless meaningless back slapping dribble. Anyway, i've had a look at their website http://mainspring.co.uk/global-light-rail-awards/ and I think I might email geoff@mainspring.co.uk and ask him what exactly it was about the project that led this organisation to highly commend it.

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Actually, before i send an email, let me just check my facts. When did the prom work start? Been that I long I don't have a clue. And how long was it supposed to take? And how far behind is it according to our government? We all know it's further behind than they say, but I'll stick with official for now. Ta!

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