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On 8/2/2020 at 10:44 AM, Non-Believer said:

They've been winging it since the day the job started. There was no proper scheme of works, anybody working for the contractors will tell you that.

I see it's come in for further criticism in Tynwald last week too, the "incompetence" word was actually used as well.

I posted the same months ago. Read back in this topic. Concept plan but never detailed plans hence the jumping around to keep contractors busy till they produced some plans. Loads of cockups too along the way. And the poster above who states issues with services . Sea side theres hardly any and none that would cause a issue . No the problem is DOI and winging it and management being totally out of there depth .  

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I've explained this before Derek. From a friend working for a firm who is responsible for lots of services  , not Auldyn etc , while they had a concept plan from day one ie what the finished job would

It's not Harmer's direct fault. Nor any of those we elect. APART from not having the departmental and relevant experience and balls to stand up to and question the reams of bullshitters and chanc

But the problem isn't the horse trams.  It's the corporate culture of the Manx civil service.  Rather than accept the reality of what their main job is, which is maintain existing structures in the mo

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Here's a couple of extras https://www.gov.im/residents/roadnotifications/Notification.aspx?id=29381 5th to 21st August between Signpost and Hilberry. Two way traffic lights 9-4 daily.

 

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4 way traffic lights on Victoria Road 24/7 from Monday for a week 

They really are shutting Douglas down.

 

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22 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

The DOI slightly more devastating for business than a Covid lockdown. 

Quite right. Bastards, they should just let it flood

 

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1 hour ago, thesultanofsheight said:

That’s what happens. Real things happen when you’re busy making up unwanted shit. 

How are they making floods up?

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With the work supposedly to be finished on 1st April, can guess a few excuses why they will over run.

1) Due to adverse heavy rain unexcepted for the Isle of Man, for this time of year, work will not be completed in time.

2) Unfortunately a high tides that was unprecedented has held up works.

3) The services which were required to be run in conjuction with the works have been held up due to Covid.

4) The lone worker on the Promenade during the night had his shovel stolen.

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2 minutes ago, Holte End said:

With the work supposedly to be finished on 1st April, can guess a few excuses why they will over run.

1) Due to adverse heavy rain unexcepted for the Isle of Man, for this time of year, work will not be completed in time.

2) Unfortunately a high tides that was unprecedented has held up works.

3) The services which were required to be run in conjuction with the works have been held up due to Covid.

4) The lone worker on the Promenade during the night had his shovel stolen.

Don't forget the second wave! There has to be a second wave they can blame as well! 

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1 hour ago, Southfork said:

Don't forget the second wave! There has to be a second wave they can blame as well! 

Indeed.  It splashed the back of the envelope they had written the plans on and they had to start all over again.

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This image is from the MyProm webpage. The black and light grey road surface will become black 'n' crap in a very short time. Then the TT arrives and the bikers will be adding donuts to the design.
The grey strip in the foreground is the horse tram tracks, so as the image shows, children will be walking in between two sets of traffic. The skirts on the horse trams are nowhere near as comprehensive as on a modern tram. If a child does go under a tram, the flanged steel wheels running on steel rails will take off a hand or foot.
Maybe it will look better when the double yellow lines, multiple Give Way signs and piles of horse manure are included.

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1 minute ago, Two-lane said:

outcomes.jpg.dbd0dc810c93c66ea973fbee5d663e43.jpg

This image is from the MyProm webpage. The black and light grey road surface will become black 'n' crap in a very short time. Then the TT arrives and the bikers will be adding donuts to the design.
The grey strip in the foreground is the horse tram tracks, so as the image shows, children will be walking in between two sets of traffic. The skirts on the horse trams are nowhere near as comprehensive as on a modern tram. If a child does go under a tram, the flanged steel wheels running on steel rails will take off a hand or foot.
Maybe it will look better when the double yellow lines, multiple Give Way signs and piles of horse manure are included.

I see they went overboard with their artistic licence on the Sefton...

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13 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

I see they went overboard with their artistic licence on the Sefton...

Indeed. But that same overboard will be applicable to the whole image....there's a reality check needed within the DOI.

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19 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

outcomes.jpg.dbd0dc810c93c66ea973fbee5d663e43.jpg

This image is from the MyProm webpage. The black and light grey road surface will become black 'n' crap in a very short time. Then the TT arrives and the bikers will be adding donuts to the design.
The grey strip in the foreground is the horse tram tracks, so as the image shows, children will be walking in between two sets of traffic. The skirts on the horse trams are nowhere near as comprehensive as on a modern tram. If a child does go under a tram, the flanged steel wheels running on steel rails will take off a hand or foot.
Maybe it will look better when the double yellow lines, multiple Give Way signs and piles of horse manure are included.

They are doing it in tarmac now.

Then digging it up again later to redo it in the black/grey colours.

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3 hours ago, Neil Down said:

I see they went overboard with their artistic licence on the Sefton...

the sefton are still trying to convince property owners into selling them their bricks for half their value so they can create their dream

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10 hours ago, Southfork said:

Don't forget the second wave! There has to be a second wave they can blame as well! 

Infrastructure Minister Tim Baker has confirmed work is on schedule on these areas, despite some unforseen problems:

ffs I forgot unforeseen, that old chestnut. Baker must think we public are as daft as he is.

How long have these people been doing this kind of work, there should be no surprises in this kind of work.

Just another way to increase costs.

I also forgot another excuse, that if the job is really going to go over the date, find a viking burial ground and have to call in the archaeologists.

 

 

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