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2 hours ago, ellanvannin2010 said:

It must be because they announced that you could ask for a free transfer ticket for some journeys from Onchan so why not just catch the route 1,2,11,12 etc up to Onchan and then transfer there to the equivalent routes going back into Douglas and the same coming from Onchan, change in Douglas with a free transfer if for some strange reason you wanted to go from Onchan to somewhere along the promenade. Be cheaper than running an empty bus around all day.

6 new buses have arrived and are parked at Banks Circus.

They can’t win can they ?

If they continue using fossil fueled busses, they are wrong, then if they buy hybrid or full electric busses, they are slated again.

Make your fucking minds up

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3 hours ago, ellanvannin2010 said:

It must be because they announced that you could ask for a free transfer ticket for some journeys from Onchan so why not just catch the route 1,2,11,12 etc up to Onchan and then transfer there to the equivalent routes going back into Douglas and the same coming from Onchan, change in Douglas with a free transfer if for some strange reason you wanted to go from Onchan to somewhere along the promenade. Be cheaper than running an empty bus around all day.

6 new buses have arrived and are parked at Banks Circus.

When do the other 6 arrive from the cocked up order?

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To be fair....all this disruption is being dished out very fairly.

Peel's obviously been doing far too well just lately, so in sympathy with the DOI's Douglas business-destroying efforts the MUA have announced that they're going to root Peel's East Quay up where all those burgeoning marina-side pubs and eateries are (MR News).

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50 minutes ago, dilligaf said:

They can’t win can they ?

If they continue using fossil fueled busses, they are wrong, then if they buy hybrid or full electric busses, they are slated again.

Make your fucking minds up

But these buses will be fossil-fuelled as well.  Even assuming they use electricity for at least part of the time - that is made almost entirely from fossil fuels, directly or indirectly.  The Island missed the chance to invest in renewables because Proffitt decided he wanted a new power station to play about with instead and the politicians were too weak and gullible to stand up to him.  Now we have Longworth wanting his new toys, when the greener thing might simply be to keep the existing ones for longer.

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Just now, Roger Mexico said:

But these buses will be fossil-fuelled as well.  Even assuming they use electricity for at least part of the time - that is made almost entirely from fossil fuels, directly or indirectly.  The Island missed the chance to invest in renewables because Proffitt decided he wanted a new power station to play about with instead and the politicians were too weak and gullible to stand up to him.  Now we have Longworth wanting his new toys, when the greener thing might simply be to keep the existing ones for longer.

Good point. That’s what really makes me laugh about the IOMs environmental strategy. We want to move to hybrid and electric buses to save the environment. Yes electric that’s produced by burning huge amounts of natural gas at the power station or burning a load of rubbish at the incinerator! 

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30 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said:

Good point. That’s what really makes me laugh about the IOMs environmental strategy. We want to move to hybrid and electric buses to save the environment. Yes electric that’s produced by burning huge amounts of natural gas at the power station or burning a load of rubbish at the incinerator! 

I don't mind the rubbish - apart from anything else it's a good way of getting rid of all the plastic.  It's the fuel oil they have to use to burn it because there's not the systems to separate out waste properly (despite public willingness) and so it's run more inefficiently.  But as with everything else done by the Manx government, green issues are only seen as an excuse to spend more money on capital projects - Quayle said as much (gleefully) when the Curran Report came out.  The idea that being green means being more efficient and less spendthrift is incomprehensible to them.

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From Iron ore to scrapyard, electric vehicles are better than petrol vehicles but only just!!! IE. not as good as we believe or have been led to believe that they are?

Depends of course, on the uptake of electric, how we derive the power to re-charge them and the number of people who trip over the charging cable across the pavement!!!

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Is leaving your car at a charging point for the working day selfish? Should the use of these spaces be limited to a certain number of hours?

Given that these spaces are limited?

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