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I have seen a lot of recycled material made on island and the material made at Stoney mountain used to be very good, but all they seem to do now is transport the excavated material from the prom to foxdale crush it even smaller and send it back for the sub base so the shite they dig out goes back in even smaller. Why they didn't put a mobile crusher on the summerland site god knows it could of saved a fortune in haulage. 

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10 minutes ago, Barlow said:

 

No. This is impossible. The reason the Promenade has cost so much was to ensure there was a proper foundation beneath. Hence why they didn't just resurface it (as they did with Central Promenade) at a mere fraction of the cost.

HaHa. Errrrrr, there might have been even more voids then?🤭

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I'm aware that a number of groundwork and utility contractors engaged on Govt jobs have for some time expressed their concern about the Type1 and Type2 aggregates being sourced from DOI's Stoney Mountain quarry, which they are effectively obliged to use on Govt jobs.

The distinctive "yellow" aggregates are too fine, their coarse Type2 more resembles the finer Type1 that you'd find anywhere else; Stoney Mountain's own Type1 is just fine sand/dust. In short, both grades of their aggregate are felt to be too granular and not substantial enough for load-bearing engineering work.

This concern was first raised as it was used for the foundation layers under the roads and pavements at the new Clagh Vane estate at Ballasalla and subsidence was being predicted there, the concerns were naturally dismissed by management.

IF they're using the same stuff under the surfaces on the Prom then this may already be behind the subsidence being discussed?

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5 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

I'm aware that a number of groundwork and utility contractors engaged on Govt jobs have for some time expressed their concern about the Type1 and Type2 aggregates being sourced from DOI's Stoney Mountain quarry, which they are effectively obliged to use on Govt jobs.

The distinctive "yellow" aggregates are too fine, their coarse Type2 more resembles the finer Type1 that you'd find anywhere else; Stoney Mountain's own Type1 is just fine sand/dust. In short, both grades of their aggregate are felt to be too granular and not substantial enough for load-bearing engineering work.

This concern was first raised as it was used for the foundation layers under the roads and pavements at the new Clagh Vane estate at Ballasalla and subsidence was being predicted there, the concerns were naturally dismissed by management.

IF they're using the same stuff under the surfaces on the Prom then this may already be behind the subsidence being discussed?

This is all absolutely correct. It's actually really nice to use, whacks down very well, good for patios, but it's soft. Very soft.

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On 12/18/2020 at 11:54 PM, Barlow said:

Does anyone know who owned the huge house that was knocked down to make way for the Peel Sewage plant? Hasn't planning been refused?

Anyway, they'll have done ok. Same as them at Meary Veg. 

 

On 12/19/2020 at 7:33 AM, Banker said:

Don’t know who owned it but it had been derilect for a long time 

 

On 12/19/2020 at 8:24 AM, WTF said:

probably dandara then  ?

 

On 12/19/2020 at 10:54 AM, piebaps said:

Could be Heron & Brearley

 

On 12/19/2020 at 11:22 AM, WTF said:

whoever it is/was, you can bet they are in the clique and got paid very generously for it.

It was owned by a bloke who has been a Peel Commissioner for 25 years. :rolleyes:

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7 hours ago, Barlow said:

Tim Baker now saying on Manx Radio end of June for completion.

So the works they delayed and planned to do in September   Ie the single track rail and curbs , pavement etc will now be done by end of June ?!!??? No chance ! Ohhh and the finishing of the roundabouts ?? 

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23 minutes ago, skins said:

So lockdown means another 3 weeks (minimum) lost on the project.
Come on, you didn’t really think 6 months was really going to be achievable did you? 😆

 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/douglas-promenade-will-be-finished-in-six-months-vow/

Yeah but it will take another 4 weeks to remobilise

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They posted months ago that they were going to be doing water runoff and drainage work on the Mountain too but I've certainly not seen it yet.

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