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3 hours ago, NoTail said:

I genuinely believe a big UK contractor like Costains could have the whole job done in 8 weeks. That is assuming proper planning in every way.

Sorry but your very wrong on this one . Just infrastructure , connect new supply to old on all the buildings along the Prom is a major issue and takes as long as it takes . That hasnt been the problem though as whats not been said is the lack of working drawings for contractors from DOI to enable works to take place . Hence in early days they were jumping all over the place to be seeing to be doing something while DOI got their act together . They had concept plans but no working drawings . Basic requirement !! . 

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6 minutes ago, Numbnuts said:

 takes as long as it takes .  

Although I agree with your post generally I have to claim my £5 for you being Mr Auldyn, or more likely Minister Tim Baker MHK.

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18 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

I skim read your post and missed the second line, my apologies.

But if you think reverse VAT is being introduced because of big construction firms in the UK you are very wrong.

It is aimed at small time outfits charging VAT but never being registered, lots of that in the UK and I am sure it happens here too.

I am absolutely positive it doesn't happen here with Manx Construction firms.

It might when UK contractors come here, but then again they pay no tax here anyway.

The Larger manx building contractors on island, I have always found are beyond reproach.

Good pratice on island stops fraud like this.

But then again when working  in the UK your lucky to be paid let alone get your VAT.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Barlow said:

Although I agree with your post generally I have to claim my £5 for you being Mr Auldyn, or more likely Minister Tim Baker MHK.

No for sure I'm not either as I have a more than good grasp of the issues and they clearly never have . 

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£1.2m to finish the horse trams seems to have been kicked down the road for the next house to decide. 

A massive waste if that gets approved, Treasury should demand a water tight business case for it. 

It sounds like Bill Shimmins may have been the one to finally put a stop to the endless money being wasted on them 

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22 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

£1.2m to finish the horse trams seems to have been kicked down the road for the next house to decide. 

A massive waste if that gets approved, Treasury should demand a water tight business case for it. 

It sounds like Bill Shimmins may have been the one to finally put a stop to the endless money being wasted on them 

Isn't most of that for whatever signaling they need as they forgot it on the original costings. Yes its true and admitted on myprom's management meetings back last year. Said it would cost about 900k 

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6 hours ago, NoTail said:

I genuinely believe a big UK contractor like Costains could have the whole job done in 8 weeks. That is assuming proper planning in every way.

Yes if only Auldyn were part of a big UK construction group such as Colas, then I'm sure everything would have gone smoothly.

(Mind you I suppose you could say that Costains are a local Manx company - provided you go back to 1865)

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7 hours ago, AlanShimmin said:

£1.2m to finish the horse trams seems to have been kicked down the road for the next house to decide. 

A massive waste if that gets approved, Treasury should demand a water tight business case for it. 

It sounds like Bill Shimmins may have been the one to finally put a stop to the endless money being wasted on them 

Careful, Gawne will be apoplectic if you touch any heritage at all !!, it's the saviour of the world don't you know !

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8 hours ago, Numbnuts said:

Isn't most of that for whatever signaling they need as they forgot it on the original costings. Yes its true and admitted on myprom's management meetings back last year. Said it would cost about 900k 

I think that is part of it. But the fact they just 'forgot' about it is absolutely unforgiveable, that should be criminal negligence with tax payer's money. 

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The quarries section have in the past couple of years had a lot of money invested in new machinery, but the  supervisor at the foxdale quarry says he can't cope with the amount of excavated material brought into the quarry from the prom so the wagons transport the excavated prom material to the quarry tip it then it is loaded onto another wagon and taken to the tip down south. Unbelievable. 

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Baker's latest reasons why...

Making lots of projections about progress,  and the reasons for the delay and how he's dealing with the various contractors on site.

Same blame game. Possible litigation, excusing the inexcusable, considering the costs of past, present and future project-planning, which has more pages than Buckingham Palace. 

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Will pedestrians in the Banks Circus area please be careful not to trip over Ian Longworth's bottom lip and thrown toys. Thank you.

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