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11 minutes ago, yorik said:

I noticed the other day they're cutting holes in the concrete strip around on Loch Prom. Any ideas why?

Some red concrete bays within the highway central strip have been removed on Loch Promenade. These small number of bays had been defected under the contract due to site damage and have been replaced by the contractor at no cost to the Department.

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4 hours ago, Max Power said:

One of Michael Josem's which I thought was quite good...

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It’s typical Josem. 100% misrepresentation. Spun for effect. Factually inaccurate.

He’s used the prom start date as the day it was announced that plans were to be drawn up to redevelop. 2015. Work didn’t start until 3.5 years ( 1250 days ) later. That’s like including the 5 years ( 1800 days ) of the pre WW2 arms race and the Germans walking into the Rhineland, Austria and Czech Republic  in the years before September 1939 as part of WW2.

And I’m not sure about operation overlord lasting 544 days? It was the invasion and occupation of Normandy. It started 6 June 1944 and ended either 25/8/44 with Liberation of Paris or 12/9/44 when the armies that had fought through Normandy joined up with the Allied forces that had fought up from Southern France. So 90-110 days, not 544. Even if you count Overlord as being the complete invasion to VE Day it’s 330 days not 544. Overlord was followed by Market Garden from 17/9/44 and other operations.

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11 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Factually inaccurate.

Completely. To be honest it seems a bit of a ridiculous comparison to make. 

We all know it is taking far too long but to to put this issue alongside these other significant events seems to me to be just playground politics. What is the point ?

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21 minutes ago, John Wright said:

It’s typical Josem. 100% misrepresentation. Spun for effect. Factually inaccurate.

He’s used the prom start date as the day it was announced that plans were to be drawn up to redevelop. 2015. Work didn’t start until 3.5 years ( 1250 days ) later. That’s like including the 5 years ( 1800 days ) of the pre WW2 arms race and the Germans walking into the Rhineland, Austria and Czech Republic  in the years before September 1939 as part of WW2.

And I’m not sure about operation overlord lasting 544 days? It was the invasion and occupation of Normandy. It started 6 June 1944 and ended either 25/8/44 with Liberation of Paris or 12/9/44 when the armies that had fought through Normandy joined up with the Allied forces that had fought up from Southern France. So 90-110 days, not 544. Even if you count Overlord as being the complete invasion to VE Day it’s 330 days not 544. Overlord was followed by Market Garden from 17/9/44 and other operations.

he probably got the numbers from skelly,

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18 minutes ago, Apple said:

Completely. To be honest it seems a bit of a ridiculous comparison to make. 

We all know it is taking far too long but to to put this issue alongside these other significant events seems to me to be just playground politics. What is the point ?

Let’s face it, the 1979 Tynwald Millenium was 365000 days in the making.

And there hasn’t been a day since 1959 when Britain’s motorways haven’t been being built, repaired, widened, contra-flowed or made smart.

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I think it was meant to make a point rather than be factually correct.

 It succeeded for a split second until you realised it was a load of rubbish.

The only point made then being that he isn't good at making points.

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10 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Let’s face it, the 1979 Tynwald Millennium was 365000 days in the making.

And there hasn’t been a day since 1959 when Britain’s motorways haven’t been being built, repaired, widened, contra-flowed or made smart.

Have another try.

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13 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

I think it was meant to make a point rather than be factually correct.

 It succeeded for a split second until you realised it was a load of rubbish.

The issue with Mr Josem is that he isn’t even qualified at making all this stuff up. He got a BA in policy according to his website. He doesn’t seem to actually possess any relevant certifications in the areas where he proclaims he’s an expert in producing all these report. So it’s basically the unqualified opinion of some bloke who happens to have a website which claims it’s a research website when it isn’t really. 

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1 minute ago, TheTeapot said:

365248?

The leap years are tricky, 25 per century, but not in centuries divisible by 4. 1200, 1600 so yes 365248, possibly.

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14 minutes ago, MarkPark said:

The issue with Mr Josem is that he isn’t even qualified at making all this stuff up. He got a BA in policy according to his website. He doesn’t seem to actually possess any relevant certifications in the areas where he proclaims he’s an expert in producing all these report. So it’s basically the unqualified opinion of some bloke who happens to have a website which claims it’s a research website when it isn’t really. 

BA in Policy. What's that?

His website is better than Gef,  it that's not saying much

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