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14 minutes ago, Amadeus said:

Couple more pics of this masterpiece. 

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It looks like some sort of optical illusion, (assuming it's not the camera angle?)

How is any of that compliant with road marking regulations?

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49 minutes ago, trmpton said:

Honestly having walked most of the prom today it really is a crap job all along.

Shoddy workmanship and poor design from one end to the other.

What is the planned end date at the moment?

The current re jigged plan is August but then they have to return later in the year to finish the tracks to sea terminal and yes !! dig up this roundabout allegedly and do it in stone/granite although I've heard it said that this could be the roundabouts final finish . In the original plans this roundabout and the one by the sefton were to be feature stone/granite and raised .

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20 minutes ago, Amadeus said:

Couple more pics of this masterpiece. 

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Why isn’t it level? Or is that just the paint? Or a they waiting to see where the rain pools first? Aerial target practice for someone I suppose.

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1 hour ago, AlanShimmin said:

There was a damage only RTC too where someone barreled through the green light coming down Broadway thinking that was a green light for priority to head out onto the Prom. 

What / who was the green light for? 
 

sounds like the New Castletown Rd / Groves Road junction over again. 

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2 minutes ago, The Old Git said:

What / who was the green light for? 
 

sounds like the New Castletown Rd / Groves Road junction over again. 

There were lights as you came down Broadway at the time there was a stop sign at the bottom where you came into the prom.  Think it was a temporary crossing.

No end of people not surprisingly  went through the free light, which was about 20 yards before the stop sign, and assumed they were getting a green light to join the prom.

Genius

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4 minutes ago, trmpton said:

There were lights as you came down Broadway at the time there was a stop sign at the bottom where you came into the prom.  Think it was a temporary crossing.

No end of people not surprisingly  went through the free light, which was about 20 yards before the stop sign, and assumed they were getting a green light to join the prom.

Genius

They're all geniuses at the Doi!

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9 minutes ago, The Old Git said:

What / who was the green light for? 
 

sounds like the New Castletown Rd / Groves Road junction over again. 

The traffic lights were purely there as a pedestrian crossing but were so close to the actual junction that to an unaware driver they could be mistaken for signalling the junction. 

While the driver probably should have been more observant, the road should be laid out to meet basic standards. 

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Right, enough is enough of this. 

In good faith I'm contacting DOI and Roads Policing to ask about this creation before it's opened up to the public. 

It appears this isn't a recognised type of junction and therefore there must be a very clear set of safety criteria they will have run for this. 

Can they categorically confirm that it meets all relevant safety criteria? 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, trmpton said:

There were lights as you came down Broadway at the time there was a stop sign at the bottom where you came into the prom.  Think it was a temporary crossing.

No end of people not surprisingly  went through the free light, which was about 20 yards before the stop sign, and assumed they were getting a green light to join the prom.

Genius

Oh shit! 
 

Quite foreseeable. Atrocious signage on the whole project. I’ve seen keep left and keep right signs next to each other in the early days. 

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6 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

Right, enough is enough of this. 

In good faith I'm contacting DOI and Roads Policing to ask about this creation before it's opened up to the public. 

It appears this isn't a recognised type of junction and therefore there must be a very clear set of safety criteria they will have run for this. 

Can they categorically confirm that it meets all relevant safety criteria? 

 

 

Good luck with getting an answer.

Police never replied when asked if the bus lane on Glencrutchery Road was legal and signed correctly

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5 minutes ago, The Old Git said:

Oh shit! 
 

Quite foreseeable. Atrocious signage on the whole project. I’ve seen keep left and keep right signs next to each other in the early days. 

Why the obsession with using things that aren’t just standard and understood?

This. The prom crossings (there will be an accident within 12 months)That awful crossing in St John’s.

The road by the back of bike style had tape on the kerb so people didn’t trip.  The one at Nelson street by shaws brow is a trip hazard.

Plus, all the stuff they are putting in looks awful after a few months of use. The bits of the prom that have been driven on already look a right state.

The levels of incompetence are mind boggling.  It has taken years, cost an absolute fortune, and is still total gash.

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3 minutes ago, trmpton said:This. The prom crossings (there will be an accident within 12 months)That awful crossing in St John’s.

The one at Regent St will be first. The first one is marked as a zebra crossing, the second one looks like a crossing but isn’t marked as one.  Confusion between vehicles and pedestrians isn’t good. 
 

 

 

I seem to have buggered up quoting. 

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10 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said:

Good luck with getting an answer.

Police never replied when asked if the bus lane on Glencrutchery Road was legal and signed correctly

They did say they were monitoring  it to be fair and it was done away with quite quickly . I think this is such a glaring issue and clearly doesnt meet road traffic regs that they will be brave to ignore it if brought to there attention. 

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