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7 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

I meant to say you are NOT pulling out in front of traffic from the right.  So it makes zero difference to how you handle the situation.  Like any roundabout really.  

Hysterical. 

You said it was basic.  So, is it a roundabout or not?

 

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17 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Why. It’s only going to be open to traffic going north on the prom filtering to the left. Traffic is still going to be using the walkway until the carriageways are linked up. That’s expected for 15/7.  The roadways north or south aren’t actually connected to the ellipsabout 

oh yes, i'd almost forgotten it was that far behind schedule.

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There are at present no recognised legal road markings there. So either it’s not finished, in which case it shouldn’t be open, or as the copper we spoke to yesterday said, you’d better make damn sure you’ve got a dash-cam so you can prove what went wrong when it does. 

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1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

I wonder if the new 'fixture' at Broadway is one of these trendy multi-user things, where it theoretically makes it safer for vulnerable users by slowing everyone down and making them figure out what is going on.

I think I've seen similar in Oxford, but there, the local view is go for it and hope nobody steps out.

That's the idea of them. Create uncertainty.

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22 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

That's the idea of them. Create uncertainty.

This is true.  Before that pen it properly they had better tell people "if" it is a roundabout, or how we use it.

I don't believe it is intended to be a roundabout

 

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5 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

I wonder if the new 'fixture' at Broadway is one of these trendy multi-user things, where it theoretically makes it safer for vulnerable users by slowing everyone down and making them figure out what is going on.

I think I've seen similar in Oxford, but there, the local view is go for it and hope nobody steps out.

This wouldn't be a bad thing.

The standard of driving here is fucking awful.  You should ride a motorbike because when you do you realise the amount of vegetables on the road.  In some sort of trance or semi comatose state.

Actually making people think might not be a bad idea.

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3 minutes ago, trmpton said:

Really?  You cant really believe that?

 

I genuinely do because it isn't going to change.  If you are driving from the Gaiety side and are driving along the Prom you will stop and give way to traffic from the right wanting to turn up Broadway or return back the way they came.  What actions are you doing differently to any other normal situation?

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4 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

I genuinely do because it isn't going to change.  If you are driving from the Gaiety side and are driving along the Prom you will stop and give way to traffic from the right wanting to turn up Broadway or return back the way they came.  What actions are you doing differently to any other normal situation?

Someone coming from onchan wanting to turn up Broadway is perfectly entitled to go right across the front of you as I understand it.

There is no priority, there is no right of way, people can do what the hell they please.

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14 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

I genuinely do because it isn't going to change.  If you are driving from the Gaiety side and are driving along the Prom you will stop and give way to traffic from the right wanting to turn up Broadway or return back the way they came.  What actions are you doing differently to any other normal situation?

False. That would only apply if it's a roundabout.

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2 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

False. That would only apply if it's a roundabout.

Correct answer.  “basic” apparently.  
 

People treating it as TDDB’s has described, no matter how basic he thinks it is, is exactly why it won’t work 

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21 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

I genuinely do because it isn't going to change.  If you are driving from the Gaiety side and are driving along the Prom you will stop and give way to traffic from the right wanting to turn up Broadway or return back the way they came.  What actions are you doing differently to any other normal situation?

That is literally the opposite of what you would do at a normal junction. So why would you do it here?

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