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8 minutes ago, trmpton said:

Someone coming from onchan wanting to turn up Broadway is perfectly entitled to go right across the front of you as I understand it.

There is no priority, there is no right of way, people can do what the hell they please.

If that’s the intention I’m delighted but also slightly terrified.

I once spent some time in Drächten in the Netherlands. The first day I arrived I couldn’t work out what was different. It was a fab feeling actually when I worked out there were no road signs or road markings. It all just worked intuitively and the bonus was the environment isn’t negatively impacted by metal signs and road markings. It’s all a bit more Zen. The people of the Netherlands are tolerant, kind, intelligent, patient, and believe more in ‘us’ rather than ‘me’.  Trams, bicycles, trains, busses, people all converge in the busiest part of town and it all works out beautifully. It’s actually like watching a moving work of art  

However, we are not Zen.  Neither are we Netherlanders.  

I can see trouble ahead. 

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1 minute ago, Roxanne said:

If that’s the intention I’m delighted but also slightly terrified.

I once spent some time in Drächten in the Netherlands. The first day I arrived I couldn’t work out what was different. It was a fab feeling actually when I worked out there were no road signs or road markings. It all just worked intuitively and the bonus was the environment isn’t negatively impacted by metal signs and road markings. It’s all a bit more Zen. The people of the Netherlands are tolerant, kind, intelligent, patient, and believe more in ‘us’ rather than ‘me’.  Trams, bicycles, trains, busses, people all converge in the busiest part of town and it all works out beautifully. It’s actually like watching a moving work of art  

However, we are not Zen.  Neither are we Netherlanders.  

I can see trouble ahead. 

It'll be a petrifying thought for some people to actually think whilst they are driving.

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I knew this would happen. For the next few week now we’re going to be arguing about the definition of a roundabout, road markings, width of the lines (labia) etc. Everyone will hate it but then once everyone gets used to it they will love it and we’ll all forget we thought it was going to be shit.

Or it will only last two days.  😃

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5 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

At a normal junction i would be checking left and right and depending which way I'm turning would then dictate my actions.

At a normal crossroads of you were driving straight through you would stop to left traffic turn right in front of you?  Is that what you are saying?

Like if you were heading to St Ninians from QB you would stop at the bottom of Bray hill to let someone turn right into Tromode Road?

Really?

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2 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

It'll be a petrifying thought for some people to actually think whilst they are driving.

Wouldn’t it be lovely to think that that rounda thing might change things?  Getting drivers concentrating and thinking again. That would be nice. 

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3 minutes ago, trmpton said:

At a normal crossroads of you were driving straight through you would stop to left traffic turn right in front of you?  Is that what you are saying?

Like if you were heading to St Ninians to from QB you would stop at the bottom of Bray hill to let someone turn right into Tromode Road?

Really?

You are getting hysterical now.

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34 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

I genuinely do because it isn't going to change.  If you are driving from the Gaiety side and are driving along the Prom you will stop and give way to traffic from the right wanting to turn up Broadway or return back the way they came.  What actions are you doing differently to any other normal situation?

Apply this to the bottom of Bray Hill example.

I would hope you would do things very differently

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28 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

I once spent some time in Drächten in the Netherlands. Trams, bicycles, trains, busses, people all converge in the busiest part of town and it all works out beautifully.

I spent some time in Amsterdam a few years back, and though I was generally extremely mellow for some mysterious reason, and although I'd never previously had any issue with bicycles, as a pedestrian I could quite cheerfully have strangled a good number of Dutch cyclists with their own intestines most days.

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