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34 minutes ago, Max Power said:

The PS has no competitors, and doesn't seem to see its clients as customers. They don't react to customer demand, it's all about the process rather than the service.

As was spelled out by the Beaman's DOI report alone.

Even without going down the privatisation route, there are huge areas where IoM Govt could be leaner and more efficient with the knock-on to taxes and charges to the general public and the private sector.

Personally, I don't think that's the priority though as in the short term it would endanger the Island's population number.

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1 hour ago, ellanvannin2010 said:

But your favourite country Jersey contracts it’s bus  services out to a private operator.

A private operator would not need a director of transport amongst many other posts  for what is essentially a small depot of under 100 buses

Obviously you haven’t a clue, Jersey is a lot smaller island, has a lot more residents & visitors so going to be a lot easier to operate at a profit.

No one is against privatization but no sane private operator will take on without a subsidy or the axing of most routes which would be politically & socially unacceptable. Obviously it needs to be run more efficiently.

if it’s so easy to run privately why don’t you put your wallet on table & put a bid in rather than opening big mouth?

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39 minutes ago, Max Power said:

The PS has no competitors, and doesn't seem to see its clients as customers. They don't react to customer demand, it's all about the process rather than the service. I can see both sides of this argument, it's going to become more and more important as AI takes away more and more jobs in both the private and public sectors. Should we resist the changes or embrace them?

Some interesting numbers here, Max: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/trend-deck-2021-demographics/trend-deck-2021-demographics

Section 2, in particular.

 

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3 minutes ago, Amadeus said:

Some pics from the new sections and changes along the whole stretch. 
 

 

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What part of the roundabout is the red car observing? 😂

And how long are those white lines on the roundabout going to last, given that they already seem to be being marked and scrubbed by tyres?

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2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

What part of the roundabout is the red car observing? 😂

And how long are those white lines on the roundabout going to last, given that they already seem to be being marked and scrubbed by tyres?

Just been through and 'round' the big spaces called various names. The one at the bottom of Broadway is a complete mess already as you state and where the main traffic goes its clearly not going to last anytime at all . Between rubber from tires , excess tarmac and the likes it looks terrible.  No problems going through as thats all you can do as lighter 'cream' lines bear no resemblance to direction or guidance. Also the tarmac leading up to the shared space on brodway is also very poorly finished and clearly no level of pride was involved. Also the crossings are in dubious places and too near the junctions . Not good tbh .

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19 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

And how long are those white lines on the roundabout going to last, given that they already seem to be being marked and scrubbed by tyres?

They are due to be replaced with granite at a later date 

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Navigations of roundel to date - 2

Near misses witnessed - 1

 

Me heading Onchan to Douglas and I stop at the stupid crossing just before bottom of Broadway for a pedestrian.

As do the two vehicles on the other side heading toward summerland.

Car coming down Broadway is looking right to see if they need to give way.  Don’t’ stop, and personally I would have been going slower than he was.

Car passes in front of him and he thinks he is good to go, one more check right, all clear.

Looks straight ahead at where he is heading and the car he gave way to is stopped right in his path because of the two vehicles (one car, one van) stoped to let pedestrians cross.

Only a matter of time, and as a pedestrian I will be giving it a wide berth.

Also, as mentioned above looks dirty and scruffy already.  As does most of the paving which also does a brilliant job of reflecting light right back into your face - so take sunglasses if you are walking and have even slightly sensitive eyes.

3/10.  Bit outside Sefton looks nice.  Wonder how much the paving engraved with the musical notes for the national anthem cost?  Shame it’s so badly done you can barely make it out even before anyone has walked on it.

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10 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said:

The videos on FB look dreadful already. People going over it, through it, round it, no one has any idea what to do with it. Nothing standard about it in the slightest. Only a matter of time until there's an accident there.

The whole point is you don’t “do” anything.

Nobody has priority or right of way.  Everyone is meant to just slow to a crawl and be polite and kind and fluffy and stuff.

That is the theory as I understand it anyway.  In reality people going straight along the prom we’re just barrelling through as if there was no intersection and with a quick glance to their right

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30 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

In reality people going straight along the prom we’re just barrelling through as if there was no intersection and with a quick glance to their right

Isn't that what you're supposed to do?

It's what I did this morning 😎

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