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13 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

Did you think he'd turn it around in two weeks?

I'm a fan of anyone who takes on a job like that.

Nobody is going to turn that clusterfuck around in two weeks, he could have at least said he is going to do his level best to do so. His reply filled everybody with hope (the no kind)

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I'd like to think one day every person on the Isle of Man gets to work on the Great Promenade. 

No other jobs, we just all head to Douglas and do our bit. We all get paid the same, wear the same overalls and eat the same lunch together with hearty smiles, and no inequality.

Watching our children, and our children's children head off for rail laying, lamp repositioning and coloured concrete correction on the Great Promenade would fill me with pride and bring this Island's community together for generations to come. Put the pride back into the people with a bit of hard graft.

 

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2 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

I’m sorry but where in the procurement process, when they’re itching to burn their way through £20m, did someone not say “that’s completely s**t” throw the proposal in the bin?

about the time they realised it was already ordered and on island and the restocking charge cost more than it would save.

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2 minutes ago, slinkydevil said:

I'd like to think one day every person on the Isle of Man gets to work on the Great Promenade. 

No other jobs, we just all head to Douglas and do our bit. We all get paid the same, wear the same overalls and eat the same lunch together with hearty smiles, and no inequality.

Watching our children, and our children's children head off for rail laying, lamp repositioning and coloured concrete correction on the Great Promenade would fill me with pride and bring this Island's community together for generations to come. Put the pride back into the people with a bit of hard graft.

 

Well maybe the Jurby Hilton residents might like a bit of fresh air...

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6 hours ago, Roxanne said:

That is hugely insulting to the Minister in charge. TC is nothing like his predecessor. He’s a realist who is determined to shake things up at the DOI and get it working properly again. He’s up against a huge task for sure but if anyone can turn things around then I believe he has the skills to do it. 

Fair assessment imo.  Lets re visit this in a few years.  

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30 minutes ago, slinkydevil said:

I'd like to think one day every person on the Isle of Man gets to work on the Great Promenade. 

No other jobs, we just all head to Douglas and do our bit. We all get paid the same, wear the same overalls and eat the same lunch together with hearty smiles, and no inequality.

Watching our children, and our children's children head off for rail laying, lamp repositioning and coloured concrete correction on the Great Promenade would fill me with pride and bring this Island's community together for generations to come. Put the pride back into the people with a bit of hard graft.

 

What!!?? And no mobile phones , thats not happening ! 

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Tim Crookall was spot on, he didn’t make false promises he gave an honest answer to a really naive question.   He has not got a crystal ball, it will be finished as soon as possible and that is the long and the short of it.   I am more concerned with the quality of the work, some of it is badly finished and heaven knows how it will look in a few years time.   However it will make a suitable background for that scruffy,awful fairground that no doubt will get permission to get dumped there if the T.T. Goes ahead. 

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3 hours ago, CallMeCurious said:

The need was the points were defective or non-complaint in someway. Luckily someone who knew what they were doing spotted it. Shame the people paid to design, manufacture or install them didn't spot it.

[...] Presumably the track or points design was signed off and so there will be a trail of contractual responsibility that will cover the cost of the repair/alteration. Assuming it wasn't damaged in situ.

The only surprise on this was that there was actually any such inspection done.  We have no proper rail inspectorate of the Island - as far as I know the work has to be done as just another hat worn by the Health and Safety people. Because of course we have to have a special 'Manx solution' that doesn't involve any of those pesky outside experts telling us what to do.

As far as assigning contractual responsibility goes, I think we can be fairly sure that in a legal fight between our local amateurish civil servants and the local branches of multinational construction companies with all their resources and experience, there's only going to be one outcome.

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7 hours ago, hissingsid said:

Tim Crookall was spot on, he didn’t make false promises he gave an honest answer to a really naive question.   He has not got a crystal ball, it will be finished as soon as possible and that is the long and the short of it.   I am more concerned with the quality of the work, some of it is badly finished and heaven knows how it will look in a few years time.   However it will make a suitable background for that scruffy,awful fairground that no doubt will get permission to get dumped there if the T.T. Goes ahead. 

If only Harmer hadn't had the foresight to have no planned end date. We might have seen him as CM now. Lauding him for his great achievement of successfully meeting the target of not failing to meet an end date, as there was no end date.

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Yep not entirely convinced that not having an end date is a good strategy in the circumstances.  You’d kind of think a multimillion pound project would have more than…’you aren’t going to catch me out with an end date’.

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