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Mate who has shops down there said that yesterday (Wednesday) there was loads of Auldyn staff clearing those same grids. Looks like it could be a ongoing issue for years to come. Especially as we know DOI wont regularly check and clear them .

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Beany blocks to give them their correct name

Make an Internet search on "Beany blocks clogged" or similar and you will get a few hits.

I assume that old fashioned road drains have a collector sump to hold large debris that might fall into the drain - I guess that is why I sometimes see road workers with a bloody great vacuum cleaner sucking stuff out of drains.

It would seem that Beany blocks work best when clearing rain water alone, which is clearly not the case here. So the question is - who specified Beany blocks, Auldyn or the DoI?

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3 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

Make an Internet search on "Beany blocks clogged" or similar and you will get a few hits.

I assume that old fashioned road drains have a collector sump to hold large debris that might fall into the drain - I guess that is why I sometimes see road workers with a bloody great vacuum cleaner sucking stuff out of drains.

It would seem that Beany blocks work best when clearing rain water alone, which is clearly not the case here. So the question is - who specified Beany blocks, Auldyn or the DoI?

Wouldn't be Auldyn. They are only the main contractor. Architects/ Engineers working for DOI would have done .  Auldyn will just build to spec .

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3 hours ago, Two-lane said:

 

It would seem that Beany blocks work best when clearing rain water alone, which is clearly not the case here. So the question is - who specified Beany blocks, Auldyn or the DoI?

The same people who specified tram rails being set it concrete with no allowance for thermal expansion.

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8 hours ago, Omobono said:

.... blocked solid and they were trying to high pressure jet it clear...

 

A great way to bust a joint in the drain [insert your own cannabis joke here] , creating problems long term as debris will get trapped in broken sections, increase the risk of leaks into the substrate and washing out the sand.

And the sand will need to be cleaned out frequently because it acts as a filter, trapping any other particulates and if left too long these can bind to form a solid mass [insert your own laxative joke here].

Seen it happen with poorly drained cable ducts in marine environments where sand and sediment accumulates and sets like cement. 

The prom will truly be the never ending project. Move over flumes.    

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8 hours ago, James Blonde said:

When I went to one of the info sessions at the Sea Terminal, before this all kicked off, one of the Crayonistas proudly told me that the drainage holes were uniquely sized for the Douglas Prom scheme. Why and to what benefit he was unable to confirm. 

Ah the salesman saw him coming a mile off.... because if that is true, they are non-standard and will come at a premium cost. Not only that but in years to come any replacemnet will also be a special. But best of all the supplier will be free from any liability for the design of a non-standard product.

I seem to recall they had issues with drains on Peel Road didn't they?

https://www.isleofman.com/News/details/64462/company-defends-reputation-on-peel-road-work

Not a good look for the Department of Infrastructure who will no doubt blame the contractor. Again.

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10 hours ago, CallMeCurious said:

 

Ah the salesman saw him coming a mile off.... because if that is true, they are non-standard and will come at a premium cost. Not only that but in years to come any replacemnet will also be a special. But best of all the supplier will be free from any liability for the design of a non-standard product.

 

 

 

 

They didn't see him coming - they sent for him

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“Continuous footpath, give way to pedestrians “ signs in Kirk Michael where all Ken’s have been removed over a period of months at at considerable expense.

Why? What problem does this solve?  Same as the promenade ones. Just stupid and discouraging pedestrians from looking before they walk straight across a road.

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11 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

“Continuous footpath, give way to pedestrians “ signs in Kirk Michael where all Ken’s have been removed over a period of months at at considerable expense.

Why? What problem does this solve?  Same as the promenade ones. Just stupid and discouraging pedestrians from looking before they walk straight across a road.

What's a Ken?

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