quilp Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, b4mbi said: Yeah, the problem is drivers/pedestrians don't know who's right of way it is on unmarked crossing? Zebra crossing is clear, drivers have to wait for pedestrians. Unmarked? Anyone? Don't pedestrians always have right of way? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just now, quilp said: Don't pedestrians always have right of way? I've briefly looked and there's nothing in Manx highway code about unmarked crossings that I can see. It seems to think that pedestrian crossings are either zebra or light controlled. If it's not one of these, then it's just road decoration. At least that's what I'd be arguing - how is it different to those fecking stupid celtic cross designs in St Johns, that were eventually removed, but tragically too late. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I haven't been on Douglas prom for ages thankfully, so haven't seen the 'crossing' in question, but I'm gonna stick with my view that unmarked (or non-conventional) crossings are stupid and they should just do them properly or not at all. I also happen to think that block paved crossings are stupid too, and they should just paint on tarmac like normal people would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 27 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: I haven't been on Douglas prom for ages thankfully, so haven't seen the 'crossing' in question, but I'm gonna stick with my view that unmarked (or non-conventional) crossings are stupid and they should just do them properly or not at all. I also happen to think that block paved crossings are stupid too, and they should just paint on tarmac like normal people would. Well they have painted on tarmac for one crossing heading north after broadway and it stands out much more clearly than the block paved efforts.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/witness-appeal-after-car-hits-pedestrian-on-douglas-prom/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 58 minutes ago, quilp said: Don't pedestrians always have right of way? that would be jaywalking in some jurisdictions so probably not. Edited January 6 by WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, b4mbi said: Yeah, the problem is drivers/pedestrians don't know who's right of way it is on unmarked crossing? Zebra crossing is clear, drivers have to wait for pedestrians. Unmarked? Anyone? It's the Isle of Man for heavens sake, a lot of car drivers don't think the rules apply to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, b4mbi said: Yeah, the problem is drivers/pedestrians don't know who's right of way it is on unmarked crossing? Zebra crossing is clear, drivers have to wait for pedestrians. Unmarked? Anyone? Are there any actual Zebra Crossings on Loch Promenade?. I thought the idea of the shared space was that nothing had right of way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 One at Regent St junction. And an unmarked crossing very close, basically the width of Regent St Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, The Old Git said: One at Regent St junction. And an unmarked crossing very close, basically the width of Regent St No zig zag markings or road studs or white lines marking the crossing though, so is the grey/dark grey blockwork crossing a legal Zebra crossing or just a fake look a like DOI pretend one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Thought one of them had the flashing lights on poles and white lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 15 minutes ago, The Old Git said: Thought one of them had the flashing lights on poles and white lines They have the Belisha beacons but do not have the white lines denoting the extent of the crossing or the zig zag lines. On the crossings north of the Empress they do. I suppose the legal status of these crossings will eventually be sorted out in court. I am not sure why they could not have been made exactly to the accepted standard that other zebra crossings on the IOM are made to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 9 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: They have the Belisha beacons but do not have the white lines denoting the extent of the crossing or the zig zag lines. On the crossings north of the Empress they do. I suppose the legal status of these crossings will eventually be sorted out in court. I am not sure why they could not have been made exactly to the accepted standard that other zebra crossings on the IOM are made to Court? You mean when/if there is an accident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just now, Happier diner said: Court? You mean when/if there is an accident? The first one !! NEWS: Police are appealing for witnesses after a pedestrian was hit by a car while using a crossing on Douglas promenade this morning. The incident happened at the junction on Loch Promenade and Regent Street at around 9.30am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Posted on the previous page, hence the discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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