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4 hours ago, emesde said:

. How do you intend to train people to improve to your required standards.? 

It's a good question. Education, campaigns, enforcement,stricter penalties, good policing. Would be a start I guess. 

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15 minutes ago, Bandits said:

Another troll. How thoroughly amusing.

Not at all. He’s right. It’s up to you whether you choose to get upset about it or not by choosing whether to read about it or not. 

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1 minute ago, Roxanne said:

Not at all. He’s right. It’s up to you whether you choose to get upset about it or not by choosing whether to read about it or not. 

Not really as if I need to find out what’s going on with road closures etc I have no opportunity not to read the appalling drivel. 

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4 minutes ago, Bandits said:

Not really as if I need to find out what’s going on with road closures etc I have no opportunity not to read the appalling drivel. 

I smell bullshit

There's a lot of space between looking at a road closure app to check the roads and suddenly finding yourself reading absolute bullshit on social media about the police deriding tax payers who pay their wages?

Come on.

 

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12 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

I smell bullshit

I don’t really care what you smell. The fact remains official government sites like Tweetbeat or any of the others exist solely to inform the public about things that affect the service being provided by that department. Not to try to turn a bunch of highly paid smug twats into media stars or social commentators. They should perhaps stick to just informing the public which is what people follow them for and not lecturing the public or offering any other form of unneeded comment.

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15 hours ago, Happier diner said:

It's a good question. Education, campaigns, enforcement,stricter penalties, good policing. Would be a start I guess. 

Would you make regular training compulsory?  Re~tests., the problem is unless you make it compulsory very few people would pay for extra tuition. The general attitude seems to be "everybody else" needs to be better. 

Campaigns can give a strong message but have to be followed up with effective enforcement and can take generations to change attitudes. Drink drive, wearing seat belts etc. Good for individual objectives, but do little for general driving stds. Good effective policing helps but is very expensive. 

It's a real problem but not helped but  by the sort of decisions that were made in reshaping the prom.

It is a main road and looks as if the requirements of the people using it were of secondary importance. 

People at the summer Hill end of the prom struggle to find a safe crossing point. Yet when you get into Douglas there are more crossing points than required to cross safely. 

The junctions are awful for vision when emerging etc etc. The whole project was the opportunity to improve. £30 Million or so could have made things much better. We have had 4 years of disruption for something that has created more problems than answers. 

 

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1 hour ago, emesde said:

Would you make regular training compulsory?  Re~tests., the problem is unless you make it compulsory very few people would pay for extra tuition. The general attitude seems to be "everybody else" needs to be better. 

Campaigns can give a strong message but have to be followed up with effective enforcement and can take generations to change attitudes. Drink drive, wearing seat belts etc. Good for individual objectives, but do little for general driving stds. Good effective policing helps but is very expensive. 

It's a real problem but not helped but  by the sort of decisions that were made in reshaping the prom.

It is a main road and looks as if the requirements of the people using it were of secondary importance. 

People at the summer Hill end of the prom struggle to find a safe crossing point. Yet when you get into Douglas there are more crossing points than required to cross safely. 

The junctions are awful for vision when emerging etc etc. The whole project was the opportunity to improve. £30 Million or so could have made things much better. We have had 4 years of disruption for something that has created more problems than answers. 

 

Heads should roll  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

Does someone have to be killed before we do anything? St. Johns?

Totally agree. Is everything based on new, modern, different, cost or does no-one nowadays check on feel good factor, quality of finish, practicality, maintenance, drainage, need, safety  or maintenance and longevity?,

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30 minutes ago, doc.fixit said:

Totally agree. Is everything based on new, modern, different, cost or does no-one nowadays check on feel good factor, quality of finish, practicality, maintenance, drainage, need, safety  or maintenance and longevity?,

I don't know why we can't have just a basic set of minimum design standards for all island roads. 

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