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5 hours ago, doc.fixit said:

I'm hoping that some of the big businesses from across, M and S etc, start making BIG waves..at least, I wish someone with clout would start kicking back 'cos the gov. ain't listening to us.

This isn’t just a hole in the road...it’s a not far from M&S hole in the road.

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6 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

I sincerely hope that at the end of all this there will be an independent, forensic Inquiry into what has gone on, the Whens, the Whys and the Whos. That would leave no stone unturned and not just produce an outcome of "Lessons will be Learned". The lessons relevant should have been learned well before this shambles commenced.

Then a pig cruised past at 40,000 feet.

There needs to be one now so we don't waste anymore money. The Environment and Infrastructure Committee is looking into it but when they will do a final report and what it will say god only knows. Failing a proper investigation they need to stop laying the rails and just fix the mess they've made already.

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10 hours ago, Neil Down said:

It’s almost like they haven’t a feckin  clue 

almost ??

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16 hours ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

There needs to be one now so we don't waste anymore money. The Environment and Infrastructure Committee is looking into it but when they will do a final report and what it will say god only knows. Failing a proper investigation they need to stop laying the rails and just fix the mess they've made already.

Have you seen anyone actually working on the rails since Christmas?.

The whole section of track up to the only bit of the promenade they have not yet started improving (the Esplanade) is supposed to be completed by January 2020( presumably the end of January) So in the first of four weeks they appear to have done absolutely F*** all.

Still not seen a anyone working on the supposedly complete section of road and pavement at the Summerhill end either.

 

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You have to assume there are 'discussions' currently going on about the rails. 

It makes no sense to continue doing them when they can't even agree about what is causing the concrete to crack. 

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1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

You have to assume there are 'discussions' currently going on about the rails. 

It makes no sense to continue doing them when they can't even agree about what is causing the concrete to crack. 

Damage limitation I'm thinking .at a last resort they have to dig it all up and they definitely don't want to be seen to do that . But sadly I think they have no option as it's a complete F***up . No signs of any change either which is even more worrying .

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I don't profess to know or even understand how major road refurbishments are carried out and costed but wouldn't it be better to have an 'all hands on deck' approach? This way we could have had the whole thing done in months rather than years, mitigated the losses to businesses on the promenade and had something which benefits the island in a timely manner. Instead we are just adding to the scale of the desolation with the likes of the Villiers, Summerland, Castle Mona, Imperial etc. Surely the costs wouldn't be any more than spreading it out as an employment scheme over four years!!

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Just now, Max Power said:

I don't profess to know or even understand how major road refurbishments are carried out and costed but wouldn't it be better to have an 'all hands on deck' approach? This way we could have had the whole thing done in months rather than years, mitigated the losses to businesses on the promenade and had something which benefits the island in a timely manner. Instead we are just adding to the scale of the desolation with the likes of the Villiers, Summerland, Castle Mona, Imperial etc. Surely the costs wouldn't be any more than spreading it out as an employment scheme over four years!!

This is the problem. There aren’t enough ‘hands’. You’d have to import masses of itinerant labour.

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1 minute ago, Derek Flint said:

This is the problem. There aren’t enough ‘hands’. You’d have to import masses of itinerant labour.

Well, that makes sense to me Derek, at least the pubs would benefit too!

 

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10 minutes ago, Max Power said:

I don't profess to know or even understand how major road refurbishments are carried out and costed but wouldn't it be better to have an 'all hands on deck' approach? This way we could have had the whole thing done in months rather than years, mitigated the losses to businesses on the promenade and had something which benefits the island in a timely manner. Instead we are just adding to the scale of the desolation with the likes of the Villiers, Summerland, Castle Mona, Imperial etc. Surely the costs wouldn't be any more than spreading it out as an employment scheme over four years!!

What! That would ruin Watling street works multi million pound retirement fund!

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33 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

This is the problem. There aren’t enough ‘hands’. You’d have to import masses of itinerant labour.

Which begs the question; in the clear absence of, why the hell did they start the job in the first instance?

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9 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Which begs the question; in the clear absence of, why the hell did they start the job in the first instance?

DOI management  and Civil Service ego's .  ! Harmer is on record at the start of th contract that they would be 50/60 workers at any one time . They haven't even got close mainly because they haven't had detailed plans for much of the works apart from conception plans. Also because of cockups in Rail and concrete laying has caused much of the delay and then a inordinate time to come up with solutions for those issues . For  gods sake they are 24 weeks behind in a 48 week time span and I'm sure far more now as nothing  really has been carried out since Xmas break . It's not getting any better any time soon .

 

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1 minute ago, Numbnuts said:

DOI management  and CS Ego's ! Harmer is on record at the start of th contract that they would be 50/60 workers at any one time . They haven't even got close mainly because they haven't had detailed plans fir much of the works apart from conception plans. Also because of cockups in Rail and concrete laying has caused much of the delay and then a inordinate time yo come up with solutions for those issues . For  gods sake they are 24 weeks behind in a 48 week time span and I'm sure far more now as noting really has been carried out since Xmas break . It's not getting any better any time soon .

 

Yet according to the Dept of Incompetence and their even more incompetent boss Baker, all is well with the promenade

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2 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

Yet according to the Dept of Incompetence and their even more incompetent boss Baker, all is well with the promenade

Of course it is ..we can all see it's all hunky dory and clearly a well run contract on time and well structured and manned ! Baker is clearly smoking the same as the rest of them and quickly encompassing the DOI mindset .  

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5 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

Yet according to the Dept of Incompetence and their even more incompetent boss Baker, all is well with the promenade

This being the same Tim Baker who's been in DOI infrastructure post for all of five minutes.

Like a chick in the nest, unquestioning beak wide open, being fed bullshit by his Departmental mandarins.

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