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1 hour ago, Nellie said:

However, they will need to go back to Planning, if they want to make such a significant change on that part of the route.

I think you're right, however it might be easier to just crack on with the road/highway bit, get it done and then go to planning.

I would guess the public and local businesses would strongly support losing the so-called Tramway corridor and replacing it with more parking - equal to what was there previously. 

It would also help subvert the noisy minority who claim to want to keep the horse trams and seem to hold sway over the entire Promenade scheme. 

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9 hours ago, foxdaleliberationfront said:

This would tie in with the rumour that the Loch Promenade tracks have been scrapped altogether to save some money. Makes sense. 

Why is only Loch Promenade single track and the rest two?

A simple question to which apparently there is no answer.

No need whatsoever for two tracks. A passing place at most- a kind of mini terminus outside the Villa or where ever - but no need for two tracks.

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13 minutes ago, gettafa said:

Why is only Loch Promenade single track and the rest two?

A simple question to which apparently there is no answer.

No need whatsoever for two tracks. A passing place at most- a kind of mini terminus outside the Villa or where ever - but no need for two tracks.

It's a very good question and I'm sure it will have been asked of DOI countless times. But as always where the toy trains and trams are concerned they ride roughshod over any opposition or accountability 

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I've asked it countless times myself. It's not a good question, it's an obvious one. 

If someone provides a half decent answer I'll be happy.

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The road is not wide enough on loch prom to have the increased track seperation that is  necessary to run motorised trams and leave suitable room for normal road vehicles.

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28 minutes ago, WTF said:

The road is not wide enough on loch prom to have the increased track seperation that is  necessary to run motorised trams and leave suitable room for normal road vehicles.

Thank you wtf

So the road is wide enough Harris and Queens Prom to take a double tram track. But why waste that space on two tracks when one would be more than enough? That space could be used for parking and/or ease traffic flow.

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My reply was only a guess but it makes sense to keep the diagonal parking near the shops.   Why keep 2 tracks though instead of 1 track and passing places is a mystery.

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They originally wanted a single trach with passing places all the way along but it was rejected in planning after a bunch of cyclists objected. 

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11 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

They originally wanted a single trach with passing places all the way along but it was rejected in planning after a bunch of cyclists objected. 

But that was on the sea side of the prom IIRC  not the middle of the road.

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Cyclists and walkers did not want the Horse Tram on the walkway. I appreciate that.

For the Promenade horse tramway I would even suggest that a passing place is not an absolute necessity, but at a push maybe one somewhere midway eg. outside The Sefton/Villa Marina where it could be a bit of a feature. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Get rid of the parking on the promenade. There'll be loads of space then...

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anyone heard how the worker is after drilling through the electrical mains? Word says he’d been cleared to drill by the MEA men and promptly drilled in to a live cable. 

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19 minutes ago, Gizo said:

anyone heard how the worker is after drilling through the electrical mains? Word says he’d been cleared to drill by the MEA men and promptly drilled in to a live cable. 

Trouble is - the actual position of the cables doesn't always match the details held by the electric company. Saw it in the street where I used to live in London. Plans showed the cable following the line of the road when going into a side street - whoever laid the cable took a shortcut over a small patch of wasteland. A builder with a mini JCB found this out when digging on the wasteland.

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31 minutes ago, Gizo said:

anyone heard how the worker is after drilling through the electrical mains? Word says he’d been cleared to drill by the MEA men and promptly drilled in to a live cable. 

shocking...

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Just when you thought it couldn't become anymore of a clusterfuck, the Department of Fucking-up Everything gets involved! 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/enterprise-to-get-involved-in-prom-works/

 

And the brilliant David Christian says the rates money is in his silo and he's not giving any of it back!! 

 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/govt-should-compensate-prom-businesses-not-council/

 

Just another argument in favour of scrapping local authorities and centralising the few essential services they provide! 

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