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Apparently you get training in how to produce personalised vehicle tax discs

 

 

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At least we can rest easy knowing that the people responsible will be reprimanded and lessons will be learned!

What are we doing employing an Irish company to clean our schools anyway? Obviously the cheapest quote but surely there are local cleaning companies who could have employed locals in the same way? The whole matter of outsourcing needs a serious review, local organisations should get preference unless the skills do not exist on the island. There always used to be janitors employed by the schools who looked after things, the dark side of being obsessed with privatising everything I guess. If they hadn't let the whole PS get out of control in the first place we would have less problems. 

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2 hours ago, Kipper99 said:

Apparently you get training in how to produce personalised vehicle tax discs

Lesson 1 - How to apply your skills to make ends meet given we are not paying you to do the work.

Lesson 2 - Exposure is everything, you can literally take it the bank and buy a house.

Lesson 3 - feck this, get the crayons out and get colouring-in already.

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Awaits the inside scoop via Barry. 

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22 hours ago, Max Power said:

At least we can rest easy knowing that the people responsible will be reprimanded and lessons will be learned!

What are we doing employing an Irish company to clean our schools anyway? Obviously the cheapest quote but surely there are local cleaning companies who could have employed locals in the same way? The whole matter of outsourcing needs a serious review, local organisations should get preference unless the skills do not exist on the island. There always used to be janitors employed by the schools who looked after things, the dark side of being obsessed with privatising everything I guess. If they hadn't let the whole PS get out of control in the first place we would have less problems. 

Well said.  The talk up privatisation as "saving ", but in reality,  as someone pointed out on the airport security thread, the service ends up costing the tax payer at least as much, often more,  and the person doing the job gets paid a lot less. The difference either goes into the pocket of a 0% tax rated Manx company, or, as in this case, a company from across. 

Invariably the quality of the service plummets as costs rise. 

Are we really unimaginative and lazy  enough to just follow what the UK do, even if they've demonstrably made a complete bollocks of it. 

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27 minutes ago, Chris C said:

Well said.  The talk up privatisation as "saving ", but in reality,  as someone pointed out on the airport security thread, the service ends up costing the tax payer at least as much, often more,  and the person doing the job gets paid a lot less. The difference either goes into the pocket of a 0% tax rated Manx company, or, as in this case, a company from across. 

Invariably the quality of the service plummets as costs rise. 

Are we really unimaginative and lazy  enough to just follow what the UK do, even if they've demonstrably made a complete bollocks of it. 

the key thing is the pension liability moves 

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3 minutes ago, Chris C said:

Well said.  The talk up privatisation as "saving ", but in reality,  as someone pointed out on the airport security thread, the service ends up costing the tax payer at least as much, often more,  and the person doing the job gets paid a lot less. The difference either goes into the pocket of a 0% tax rated Manx company, or, as in this case, a company from across. 

Invariably the quality of the service plummets as costs rise. 

Are we really unimaginative and lazy  enough to just follow what the UK do, even if they've demonstrably made a complete bollocks of it. 

Have you noticed any reduction in service with baggage handlers?

Ronaldsway is not London Heathow, Gatwick or any other of the other major airports in UK. It's the size it is because of our population and visitor numbers, which is very small by comparison. 

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9 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

It's the size it is because of our population and visitor numbers, which is very small by comparison. 

Unfortunately, that equation doesn't seem to apply when it comes to politicians, Central Govt and the Civil Service.

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2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said:

Have you noticed any reduction in service with baggage handlers?

Ronaldsway is not London Heathow, Gatwick or any other of the other major airports in UK. It's the size it is because of our population and visitor numbers, which is very small by comparison. 

I don't fly. Have you noticed any reduction in cost with baggage handlers?

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2 hours ago, WTF said:

the key thing is the pension liability moves 

The pension liability of a handful of relatively low paid workers moves you mean. The taxpayer will still be paying 100% of the employers contribution, just not directly. The employee will still have to be supported by the state in retirement if there's any short fall. The saving if any will be very modest,  it's just creative accounting. 

Meanwhile the army of management positions will remain in place,  despite the reduction in workforce, and their gold plated pension liability will go nowhere. 

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2 hours ago, WTF said:

the key thing is the pension liability moves 

That's very true but there has been little movement to address that by changing the pension eligibility? We'd be better employing our own and letting them take care of their own pensions. The unions can take a running jump, they are ultimately responsible for this total clusterfuck! 

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10 hours ago, Max Power said:

That's very true but there has been little movement to address that by changing the pension eligibility? We'd be better employing our own and letting them take care of their own pensions. The unions can take a running jump, they are ultimately responsible for this total clusterfuck! 

we'd be better off making government staff work the same amount of years as the rest of us  so you pay in for 50 years and take out for 10 - 20 instead of barely paying in for 35 years and taking out for 20 - 30.   pension books just can't balance when you pay in 5%  at todays rates and expect to take out 60%  at the rates 30 years in the future.

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22 hours ago, Andy Onchan said:

Have you noticed any reduction in service with baggage handlers?

Ronaldsway is not London Heathow, Gatwick or any other of the other major airports in UK. It's the size it is because of our population and visitor numbers, which is very small by comparison.  

If you mean taking longer to get your bags than the flight time from Liverpool is ok then No

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