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Government wage bill. Up 46 million pounds since 2014.

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The SAVE programme has not been a wholesale success!

Brexit has grown the number of employees?

Looks like Treasury are not cutting the mustard by failing to cut costs or increase revenue to cover government over spending.

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Disgraceful

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Proving once and for all that it's an out of control juggernaut. Bell complained about it and did FA during his term, the baton was passed and the next incumbents have done FA as well.

I've just been reading the Examiner (P11) and Cannan's trying to JUSTIFY it saying it's extra staff taken on because of Brexit. Oh, and EU blacklisting. I thought we were crowing because we weren't blacklisted? Temporary staff taken on to cover full time roles in DHSC as well apparently.

Utter horseshit. No wonder we need new stealth taxes.

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16 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Proving once and for all that it's an out of control juggernaut. Bell complained about it and did FA during his term, the baton was passed and the next incumbents have done FA as well.

I've just been reading the Examiner (P11) and Cannan's trying to JUSTIFY it saying it's extra staff taken on because of Brexit. Oh, and EU blacklisting. I thought we were crowing because we weren't blacklisted? Temporary staff taken on to cover full time roles in DHSC as well apparently.

Utter horseshit. No wonder we need new stealth taxes.

The Cabinet Office grows by the day unabated. There'll be more people working there than the rest of government put together. 

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Plus the Golden Goodbyes.

The massive reserves belong to the people of the Isle of Man but the civil servants and their pals are divvying it up between themselves, as they have all power and control of it. 

The people of the Isle of Man have their representatives - elected MHKs - to look after their interests in such respects. But within days, if not hours of being elected, the allegiance of our chosen ones soon changes to their new friends in the civil service.

 

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£46m in 5 years? What's all the fuss about, that's only an additional 23 senior civil servants at say £100k a year? 

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1 hour ago, Whatnonsence said:

The SAVE programme has not been a wholesale success!

Brexit has grown the number of employees?

Looks like Treasury are not cutting the mustard by failing to cut costs or increase revenue to cover government over spending.

According to the latest report (Sept 18), staff numbers in year 2011 were 7,829 and in year 2018 were 7,466 (363 less) .  Looks like 180 or so have been added since 2016 though.  http://www.tynwald.org.im/business/opqp/sittings/20182021/2018-GD-0067.pdf

Also, I think they now include the pension cost (or part of it) in the wages - so that might explain the £46m rise.

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1 minute ago, interestedman said:

According to the latest report (Sept 18), staff numbers in year 2011 were 7,829 and in year 2018 were 7,466 (363 less) .  Looks like 180 or so have been added since 2016 though.  http://www.tynwald.org.im/business/opqp/sittings/20182021/2018-GD-0067.pdf

Also, I think they now include the pension cost (or part of it) in the wages - so that might explain the £46m rise.

Stop muddying the waters with facts, will you?

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And then we have Minister Chris Thomas doing the usual government honours:

Manx Radio

He is a perfect case in point. Relatively new to the Island his allegiance is naturally going to be with his new and now very plentiful friends in the government employ. No wonder he can't stop smiling.

 

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1 hour ago, interestedman said:

According to the latest report (Sept 18), staff numbers in year 2011 were 7,829 and in year 2018 were 7,466 (363 less) .  Looks like 180 or so have been added since 2016 though.  http://www.tynwald.org.im/business/opqp/sittings/20182021/2018-GD-0067.pdf

Also, I think they now include the pension cost (or part of it) in the wages - so that might explain the £46m rise.

You can bet your bottom dollar (if many of us have actually got any left these days) that 80% of those 363 less at that time would be bottom feeders such as from the DOI who departed on early retirement. Since then as Andy O has stated the numbers have been burgeoning again. But at much higher grades.

Cracking example from only a couple of days ago as posted by Derek Flint, a "Communications Assistant(?)" for Ray Harmer's DOI cabal on £40k pa. And there's never a week goes by without a big bucks new position being created and advertised for Cabinet Office. What do we actually SEE for all this recruitment? What improves?

The taxpayer is simply having the piss taken in a big way.

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And who is taking the piss? The taxpayers' interests are supposed to be looked after by people they elect to do the job. 

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17 minutes ago, gettafa said:

And who is taking the piss? The taxpayers' interests are supposed to be looked after by people they elect to do the job. 

HRH The Chief Minister is taking piss by presiding over this mess.  His assorted cabal have shown themselves to be inept both at local level and even more useless at village pump level. 

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58 minutes ago, gettafa said:

And who is taking the piss? The taxpayers' interests are supposed to be looked after by people they elect to do the job. 

Those noble promises and assurances are quickly forgotten in the company of new friends, as per your previous post, G?

The pisstakers lead them easily by the nose. Look at them. Harmer at DOI who can't even answer a non-scripted question in Tynwald if the answer's not been previously written out for him by his string pullers, Thomas at Cabinet Office. Remember Alf's blistering critiques of previous Budgets and policy? How times have changed....

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They don't have the political power or will to do anything about it though. As soon as any politician touches anything or tries to interfere, they end up with the sort of clusterfuck we've now got in the Health department. When there was plenty of gravy to go round they didn't have to worry; they just left the suits to run things and all the right people filled their boots and did very nicely thankyou - happy days all round. Big salaries, big pensions, big budgets, big handouts, big egos, big everything...

That model of government isn't working anymore but they're so up to the neck in the old system and the old ways that they can't change it. This is what we're seeing now and for the next few years until it all goes pop.

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