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12 hours ago, BallaDoc said:

That Lezayre Road cycle lane (just outside Ramsey on the Peel road) is the nuttiest thing I have ever seen.  It is a cycle lane on one side of the road only, going into town.  Assuming that Ramsey is not a sort of cyclists graveyard, where they go in and never come out again, those same cyclists have to cycle back out again the same way they came, this time on the opposite side of Lezayre Road where there is no cycle lane.  So the effect of the cycle lane is to force cars away from the cyclists going into Ramsey (good) but into the path of cyclists leaving Ramsey (not so good).  This gives the appearance of really not having been thought through.  Plus Lezayre Road is really too narrow to accommodate both car and cycle lanes.  Are there any cyclists on here who would like to comment?   

The plan seems to be to accommodate cycle lanes even if they are totally stupid and dangerous cycle lanes as some moron in the DOI has been given some some KPIs in his annual appraisal by MAMIL man to do with active travel. If some cyclist gets killed to ensure he meets those KPIs set by introducing totally dangerous cycle paths then that’s entirely incidental. 

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1 hour ago, doc.fixit said:

it looks as though they've filled in some of the excavations for the track and tarmacked over it............I suppose they will have to dig it up again.....why oh why don't they put it at the side of the road?

Suppose it goes some way to explaining why it’s going to cost so much. Every section laid/dug up then laid properly

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9 hours ago, doc.fixit said:

it looks as though they've filled in some of the excavations for the track and tarmacked over it............I suppose they will have to dig it up again.....why oh why don't they put it at the side of the road?

Because the sages in Tynwald knew best. Laying a two lane track on the narrowest part of the Prom where vehicles struggle to get passed the House trams and running a single track on the widest part is evidence of their expertise in traffic management.

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2 hours ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

Because the sages in Tynwald knew best. Laying a two lane track on the narrowest part of the Prom where vehicles struggle to get passed the House trams and running a single track on the widest part is evidence of their expertise in traffic management.

That assumes traffic usage between Broadway to Strathallan is the same as between Villa and Sea Terminal. I suspect it isn’t.

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22 hours ago, MrPB said:

The plan seems to be to accommodate cycle lanes even if they are totally stupid and dangerous cycle lanes as some moron in the DOI has been given some some KPIs in his annual appraisal by MAMIL man to do with active travel. If some cyclist gets killed to ensure he meets those KPIs set by introducing totally dangerous cycle paths then that’s entirely incidental. 

I’ve always thought that there is a simple compromise; paint a line in red delineating a hypothetical cycle lane but all vehicles can use that area of the road unless there is a cyclist using it.

It becomes a guide for drivers showing how much distance they should leave to safely pass a cyclist but without permanently narrowing the road and gets rid of the awful green paint that can be treacherous for bike tyres when wet.

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4 hours ago, The Lurker said:

I’ve always thought that there is a simple compromise; paint a line in red delineating a hypothetical cycle lane but all vehicles can use that area of the road unless there is a cyclist using it.

It becomes a guide for drivers showing how much distance they should leave to safely pass a cyclist but permanently narrow the road and gets rid of the awful green paint that can be treacherous for bike tyres when wet.

That’s not a bad idea. Which is why the DOI would never go for it. They only seem to like really bad ideas. 

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2 hours ago, MrPB said:

That’s not a bad idea. Which is why the DOI would never go for it. They only seem to like really bad ideas. 

Perhaps suggesting that they pave them with platinum or obsidian would swing it? 

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On 5/16/2019 at 2:12 AM, Roger Mexico said:

Actually the funniest thing about that article comes just after that quote:

Now Harmer lives in Peel, so is he donning the lycra and pedalling his way to Douglas?  Is he rising at the crack of dawn to walk it?[1]  It doesn't look like it, despite his claim to "cycle or walk to work".  if you read the following sentence he's talking about a rather lesser journey.  What seems to mean is that he walks from his car to his desk.  As to walking between the Sea Terminal and Tynwald, given that most individuals without designated parking spaces wouldn't dream of driving that in any case[2], it hardly seems as if enormous physical effort is being invested.

[1]  Obviously he's not going to mix with the plebs on one of his Department's own buses.

[2]  I make it only about 0.4 rather than 'one' mile, which suggests that Harmer doesn't walk it that often

Does anyone else have a problem with the cyclists going slow from south into douglas in the mornings ?, i always seem to get stuck behind a queue of traffic always out of Ballasalla, and again around the blackboards, and then again down the Richmond Hill.

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On 5/16/2019 at 9:56 PM, MrPB said:

The plan seems to be to accommodate cycle lanes even if they are totally stupid and dangerous cycle lanes as some moron in the DOI has been given some some KPIs in his annual appraisal by MAMIL man to do with active travel. If some cyclist gets killed to ensure he meets those KPIs set by introducing totally dangerous cycle paths then that’s entirely incidental. 

If cycling to work, was / is to become the norm, why has a certain company based near B&Q who is selling a huge amount of cars, but not selling any bicycles ?

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On 5/18/2019 at 3:19 PM, LightBulb said:

If cycling to work, was / is to become the norm, why has a certain company based near B&Q who is selling a huge amount of cars, but not selling any bicycles ?

They’ve just got the Audi franchise up and running. They’ll sell you one of these, at a price. Be quick. It’s a limited numbers product.

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On 5/18/2019 at 3:19 PM, LightBulb said:

If cycling to work, was / is to become the norm, why has a certain company based near B&Q who is selling a huge amount of cars, but not selling any bicycles ?

Care to explain why these guys, just around the corner, aren’t selling any cars?

 

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

They’ve just got the Audi franchise up and running. They’ll sell you one of these, at a price. Be quick. It’s a limited numbers product.

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what the harry hill are you getting for that kind of money (apart from your pants pulled down and spanked)

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21 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

what the harry hill are you getting for that kind of money (apart from your pants pulled down and spanked)

Not just any push bike, but an Audi e-tron push bike.

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On 5/18/2019 at 2:19 PM, LightBulb said:

If cycling to work, was / is to become the norm, why has a certain company based near B&Q who is selling a huge amount of cars, but not selling any bicycles ?

Are they selling lots of cars, or does it just look like that?

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39 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Not just any push bike, but an Audi e-tron push bike.

Very "Marks and Spencer"

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