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20 minutes ago, 2112 said:

 

Perhaps a more professional, qualified and salaried Motorsport Marshalls for all cycling, motorcycle and motorsports (rallying) and Trials, be established. Just a suggestion 

 

And between events they could be some sort of standing army of busybodies. Directing traffic on the prom, checking everybody’s using the correct bin.  

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Well we have a CoC who likes to spout his pronouncements as regularly on the Nations Propaganda Mouthpiece as HRH The Chief Minister. Sadly we have a state owned ferry company which is obsessed with ripping off the bikers. The CoC clearly can’t motivate existing Marshalls or he would have enough to cover the remaining races, without having to issue appeals. The Boy who Cried Wolf?

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9 minutes ago, Declan said:

 

And between events they could be some sort of standing army of busybodies. Directing traffic on the prom, checking everybody’s using the correct bin.  

Sadly this island has its fair share of busybodies, given power they go power crazy. However, what is going to happen without fail is constant appealing for enough Marshalls. The Politicos like to try and get whatever sporting event and boast like a dick waving contest, and then when it comes to the crunch they find they haven’t got enough bodies. Rallying Enough?

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20 minutes ago, Declan said:

 

And between events they could be some sort of standing army of busybodies. Directing traffic on the prom, checking everybody’s using the correct bin.  

Some western countries actually do this, works well.

Example: Verkehrskadetten Konstanz Hegau .

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1 hour ago, 2112 said:

CoC again been on the Government Propaganda Mouthpiece espousing the lack of Marshalls and appealing for more for tomorrow’s rearranged MGP Newcomers race. 

[...] Perhaps a more professional, qualified and salaried Motorsport Marshalls for all cycling, motorcycle and motorsports (rallying) and Trials, be established. Just a suggestion 

Well given that there appears to need to be hundreds of marshals required to cover the Course (no surprise given the length of it), making them 'professional' is unlikely to reduce the number needed.  So we're talking about considerable expense.  Not that that has ever bothered those running the Races and you can imagine the opportunity for the DfE to erect an enormous marshal-supervising hierarchy must be making some mouths water there.

In practice of course they'll end up awarding the contract to some firm such as G4S who will end up providing insufficient numbers of uninterested and untrained zero-hours casuals who will stand around cluelessly with occasional random interventions that make things worse.  Ever more money will be chucked at the contract because they won't want to admit how much they have cocked things up.  But management will grow, so the main aim will be fulfilled (see airport for details).

One thing I am curious about is whether some of the shortages this MGP have been caused by bikers and supporters who have been alienated by the way the Mercer affair has been handled.  I know it's technically a different organisation running the FoM, but the CoC is the same and some may see it as the same sort of operation.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

In practice of course they'll end up awarding the contract to some firm such as G4S who will end up providing insufficient numbers of uninterested and untrained zero-hours casuals who will stand around cluelessly with occasional random interventions that make things worse

So basically maintaining the status quo.

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3 hours ago, Declan said:

 

And between events they could be some sort of standing army of busybodies. Directing traffic on the prom, checking everybody’s using the correct bin.  

This is a brilliant idea. I propose the title of Neighbourhood Community Officers, NCO - probably would become known as nosey cunt officials 

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

One thing I am curious about is whether some of the shortages this MGP have been caused by bikers and supporters who have been alienated by the way the Mercer affair has been handled.  I know it's technically a different organisation running the FoM, but the CoC is the same and some may see it as the same sort of operation.

I suspect (and circumstantial evidence from FB threads backs this up) it has more to do with the price of travel putting people off. 

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TT + Not enough Hotel Accomodation = Homestay (£1800 tax free)

Shortage of TT and Motorsports Marshalls - Volunteers & Training = Increased Personal Tax Allowance for IOM workers.

1 hour ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

I suspect (and circumstantial evidence from FB threads backs this up) it has more to do with the price of travel putting people off. 

Yes it’s expensive to come for TT/FOM but I always thought returning Marshalls got a reduced rate (unless I am very wrong).

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3 hours ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

I suspect (and circumstantial evidence from FB threads backs this up) it has more to do with the price of travel putting people off. 

It is indeed. We had relatives over this weekend unrelated to FoM. Cost of putting car and a few pax on the boat was prohibitive. Ironically the best deal to get here was Easy Jet not owned by IOM Government as the fares on offer from the taxpayer owned sources were a complete rip off. Didn’t we buy the SPC to try to boost tourism? It doesn’t seem to be working that well does it? I wonder what the final FoM visitor numbers will look like if we are actively putting people off booking on the boat through aggressive pricing? 

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To put the other side of the coin it's just taken us 36hrs to travel from Gatwick to here! with a well known air carrier! With the most appalling customer service known to man!

I won't bore you with the details unless you are really bothered but fog is of course a natural hazard however the way it is dealt with was not good.

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4 minutes ago, doc.fixit said:

To put the other side of the coin it's just taken us 36hrs to travel from Gatwick to here! with a well known air carrier! With the most appalling customer service known to man!

Understood, I was talking about pricing not service. The boat has been delayed too. 

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34 minutes ago, MrPB said:

It is indeed. We had relatives over this weekend unrelated to FoM. Cost of putting car and a few pax on the boat was prohibitive. Ironically the best deal to get here was Easy Jet not owned by IOM Government as the fares on offer from the taxpayer owned sources were a complete rip off. Didn’t we buy the SPC to try to boost tourism? It doesn’t seem to be working that well does it? I wonder what the final FoM visitor numbers will look like if we are actively putting people off booking on the boat through aggressive pricing? 

The arrival figures will be gerrymandered by Government and Starship Enterprise. 

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1 hour ago, MrPB said:

It is indeed. We had relatives over this weekend unrelated to FoM. Cost of putting car and a few pax on the boat was prohibitive. Ironically the best deal to get here was Easy Jet not owned by IOM Government as the fares on offer from the taxpayer owned sources were a complete rip off. Didn’t we buy the SPC to try to boost tourism? It doesn’t seem to be working that well does it? I wonder what the final FoM visitor numbers will look like if we are actively putting people off booking on the boat through aggressive pricing? 

Too stupid to realize that once you kill the golden goose that feeds you you can't resurrect it!

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I know of a couple of Marshalls who were disgusted with the way the ACU have treated Steve Mercer, after admitting liability now trying to discredit him in court suggesting that his injuries were not as serious as was being made out, and who said they were never going to Marshall again for any races.     Whether they changed their minds when the appeal went out I don't know they had marshalled for a long time and may have changed their minds but I do know a lot of people think this case has brought disrepute upon racing on the Island myself included.

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