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Only at NoBalls Hospital eh?

The addition or a comma after Hurley, would make that read better. Just saying, not criticising.

Because I’m too old and wouldn’t effectively contribute to turning Tynwald into a modern, forward looking 21st Century Parliament. And by trotting out the tired and irrelevant ‘Why don’t you stan

As it turns out even “billionaires” can’t handle lock down so maybe there’s little hope for any poor people struggling.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8449383/Kangaroo-Jack-writer-Steve-Bing-55-jumps-death-27th-floor-LA-apartment.html

But I supposed if you’ve been a billionaire and shagged Liz Hurley as a bloke there can’t be much left to go for. 

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4 hours ago, Mr Newbie said:

As it turns out even “billionaires” can’t handle lock down so maybe there’s little hope for any poor people struggling.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8449383/Kangaroo-Jack-writer-Steve-Bing-55-jumps-death-27th-floor-LA-apartment.html

But I supposed if you’ve been a billionaire and shagged Liz Hurley as a bloke there can’t be much left to go for. 

The addition or a comma after Hurley, would make that read better. Just saying, not criticising.:flowers:

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Dr Byrne resigned the day before a local tribunal was to meet. 
does this mean that he retains his pension? 
does this mean he can go elsewhere eg Ireland and tell them he resigned rather than was dismissed? Why didn’t the tribunal meet anyway?

why was he allowed to continue working for so long??? A bloody mess. 
 

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1 hour ago, Patient centred said:

Dr Byrne resigned the day before a local tribunal was to meet. 
does this mean that he retains his pension? 
does this mean he can go elsewhere eg Ireland and tell them he resigned rather than was dismissed? Why didn’t the tribunal meet anyway?

why was he allowed to continue working for so long??? A bloody mess. 
 

At least the GMC website says (under search the register for this doctor) - "This person has been suspended from the Medical Register and may not practise as a doctor in the UK."

Are you sure about the local tribunal?  I heard that there had been one 3 or 4 years ago chaired by the deputy CEO of health.  No one knew what the outcome was, but it looks like the GMC got involved at about the same time.

Whether he should have been suspended then is hard for us to judge in the absence of the facts.  There have been rumours about him for years, however.

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1 hour ago, Patient centred said:

Anyone know why there is no adult ADHD service on the island?

thats 3% of the population discriminated against. 

There are many services that we don't have on the island.  If I needed radiotherapy for my cancer, would you say that I am discriminated against because it can't be done at Noble's?

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1 minute ago, Boo Gay'n said:

There are many services that we don't have on the island.  If I needed radiotherapy for my cancer, would you say that I am discriminated against because it can't be done at Noble's?

No, because you would still have access to it by going across.

An Adult ADHD service isn't available via flights to Liverpool.

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2 hours ago, Patient centred said:

Dr Byrne resigned the day before a local tribunal was to meet. 
does this mean that he retains his pension? 
does this mean he can go elsewhere eg Ireland and tell them he resigned rather than was dismissed? Why didn’t the tribunal meet anyway?

why was he allowed to continue working for so long??? A bloody mess. 
 

I’m not sure there was a local tribunal due to sit

Thats a separate matter to fitness to practice. It’s contractual. So is suspension. His employer may have been able to suspend, but what if the BMA tribunal didn’t find him at fault. The BMA could have suspended at any stage, they didn’t, not until they’d made their adverse conduct finding.

He’s not registered elsewhere. He’s suspended by the BMA, but not struck off. He can’t practice on his UK registration. 

The UK BMA tribunal has four days set aside in July to determine, the facts having been found, whether to find him unfit to practice ( strike him off )

They, the UK Tribunal,  have no power to dismiss him. However if he’s struck off he couldn’t stay in post.

Its only two months ago that the UK Tribunal found that he’d behaved inappropriately. There wasn’t much anyone could do before that.’

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4 hours ago, Patient centred said:

Dr Byrne resigned the day before a local tribunal was to meet. 
does this mean that he retains his pension? 
does this mean he can go elsewhere eg Ireland and tell them he resigned rather than was dismissed? Why didn’t the tribunal meet anyway?

why was he allowed to continue working for so long??? A bloody mess. 
 

Why would be lose his pension?

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

I’m not sure there was a local tribunal due to sit

Thats a separate matter to fitness to practice. It’s contractual. So is suspension. His employer may have been able to suspend, but what if the BMA tribunal didn’t find him at fault. The BMA could have suspended at any stage, they didn’t, not until they’d made their adverse conduct finding.

He’s not registered elsewhere. He’s suspended by the BMA, but not struck off. He can’t practice on his UK registration. 

The UK BMA tribunal has four days set aside in July to determine, the facts having been found, whether to find him unfit to practice ( strike him off )

They, the UK Tribunal,  have no power to dismiss him. However if he’s struck off he couldn’t stay in post.

Its only two months ago that the UK Tribunal found that he’d behaved inappropriately. There wasn’t much anyone could do before that.’

GMC John. The BMA is a union. 

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4 hours ago, Declan said:

No, because you would still have access to it by going across.

An Adult ADHD service isn't available via flights to Liverpool.

That will be because the service is specialist and has specialist equipment, not for a diagnosis that covers 3% of the population ( schizophrenia is 1%).
Treatment of Adult ADHD transforms lives and reduces the burden on mental and physical healthcare as well as saving society money from unemployment benefit, prison use etc. Plenty of evidence for this. There is absolutely NO excuse why in 2020 the mental health service is not actively assessing and treating this common mental health problem. 

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15 hours ago, Patient centred said:

That will be because the service is specialist and has specialist equipment, not for a diagnosis that covers 3% of the population ( schizophrenia is 1%).
Treatment of Adult ADHD transforms lives and reduces the burden on mental and physical healthcare as well as saving society money from unemployment benefit, prison use etc. Plenty of evidence for this. There is absolutely NO excuse why in 2020 the mental health service is not actively assessing and treating this common mental health problem. 

I'm curious, where does the 3% come from?

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