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31 minutes ago, MrPB said:

I wonder if he didn’t get convicted as the victim was a bit scared? And yet a man who was caught on a bank holiday Monday having forgotten to renew his car insurance on the Friday with a few bald tyres get a £600 fine. 

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=50202

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1 hour ago, hissingsid said:

Yorkshire Airport is another fly on the wall programme which is worth watching.

 

It's worth a watch, but I wouldn't want to entrust my security to that young security dude who can't even fasten a padlock!

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18 minutes ago, MrPB said:

I wonder if he didn’t get convicted as the victim was a bit scared? 

Well I can only guess from what was said in the programme, but it came across that another of the witnesses had managed to discredit himself when giving evidence, by claiming that he didn't know someone else involved, when it could be shown he did.  As Varey was claiming self-defence, the credibility of any witnesses contesting that would be vital.

It sounds like another one of those cases where a witness says one thing but their mobile phone records say something else.  The prosecution should really have picked up on that if the defence did.

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28 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Well I can only guess from what was said in the programme, but it came across that another of the witnesses had managed to discredit himself when giving evidence, by claiming that he didn't know someone else involved, when it could be shown he did.  As Varey was claiming self-defence, the credibility of any witnesses contesting that would be vital.

It sounds like another one of those cases where a witness says one thing but their mobile phone records say something else.  The prosecution should really have picked up on that if the defence did.

I have to say this prison series confuses me greatly. So we advertise to the world that a man who was involved in a full on police man hunt by armed officers for several days

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-41550228

Apparently leaving someone with ‘significant’ injuries in hospital does 10 months on the PlayStation in Jurby on remand and then gets let off and is apparently now some sort of positive example of rehabilitation and success for the Manx prison system now? 

Sorry but this programme is a complete crock of shit. Whoever signed it off wants their head testing. Hopefully the TV crew will follow up with a series highlighting the true stories of the world’s cushiest and most useless legal system where it’s so light touch it’s a joke (unless you have a few bald tyres or 10p of weed that is) 

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51 minutes ago, finlo said:

It's worth a watch, but I wouldn't want to entrust my security to that young security dude who can't even fasten a padlock!

Can't remember seeing that bit. Was it Jurby staff or G4S?

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52 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Well I can only guess from what was said in the programme, but it came across that another of the witnesses had managed to discredit himself when giving evidence, by claiming that he didn't know someone else involved, when it could be shown he did.  As Varey was claiming self-defence, the credibility of any witnesses contesting that would be vital.

It sounds like another one of those cases where a witness says one thing but their mobile phone records say something else.  The prosecution should really have picked up on that if the defence did.

I'm only surprised that it took 10 months to resolve. 

Would people who have been found 'innocent' and locked up for a considerable time, been able to claim for damages of some type?

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6 hours ago, manxy said:

Can't remember seeing that bit. Was it Jurby staff or G4S?

I was referring to the Yorkshire airport program.

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6 hours ago, manxy said:

Can't remember seeing that bit. Was it Jurby staff or G4S?

"Manx Woman Grabs Wrong End of Stick...Again" is hardly headline news.

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9 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said:

I still can't get over the deputy governor offering to take female inmates out, presumably in his own car, to go underwear shopping. Did I imagine that or have I got it right ? Where do you begin with something like that...?

The one who comes out with most credit in this whole programme is the woman in charge of security. It was good to see her standing up to the deputy governor's idiocy.

To be honest, nothing but nothing would now surprise me about the life these people lead inside the Prison. I used to be cynical of people that referred to is as the Jurby Hilton. But not now. As for the underwear shopping - jeez. Surely, the simple solution would be for either the Deputy Governor or George Stores to head into M&S lingerie then FaceTime the young lady requiring new undercrackers..or maybe it wouldn't be convenient for the prisoner if it was at a time when they had their gym session or busy with the "Sista" doing their nails whilst watching Loose Women eating their Salad Nicoise?

The programme is getting more embarrassing by the episode.

I know nothing of the Varey character, other than to say I would happily bet he will be back inside before too long. Maybe in time for the next series? :sweat:

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Manx Bean said:

I know nothing of the Varey character, other than to say I would happily bet he will be back inside before too long.

Cool, are we going for stabbing kidnap murder whad ya reckon, all exciting now he is a TV star.

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11 hours ago, Tricky said:

Having had first hand experience of his ways, I can categorically say that prison is far, far too good for the person named.  I will refrain from saying what I really think, but his appearance on the show sickens me to my core.

Well, as the prison governor (and some on this thread) will tell you - don't watch it...

 

 

10 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said:

I still can't get over the deputy governor offering to take female inmates out, presumably in his own car, to go underwear shopping. Did I imagine that or have I got it right ? Where do you begin with something like that...?

The one who comes out with most credit in this whole programme is the woman in charge of security. It was good to see her standing up to the deputy governor's idiocy.

Yep, definitely.

 

 

10 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

 

 because as usual with trials on the Island, while there is plenty of evidence in the media of when he was charges and held in custody, there's nothing I could find to say what actually happened when it all came to Court. Justice is very rarely seen to be done nowadays and even the merest reporting of the verdict never seems to make the news, never mind the details behind it.  Someone can be acquitted and all that a google search will show is that they were charged; someone can be found guilty of horrendous crimes and the details of them won't be public.  Unless there is an appeal that is reported or the case raises a point of law, there will be nothing on the judgments website.  And if the prosecution makes a mess of the case (as may have happened here) we will never know.

The Courts and legal system has its own ways of running what are effectively 'secret courts'.

This is the Isle of Man. 

 

10 hours ago, dilligaf said:

the whole thing is perverse.

Our government are totally stupid to have let this farce occur. Just how stupid do we as a once proud nation look now. Hot tub bill and Dan Dare need kicking out NOW.

And the Prison Governor and his mate. They both come over as a pair of fannies.

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They should have to wear prison issue underwear anyway. Hard, scratchy material with an adjustable barbed wire waistband.

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2 hours ago, Manx Bean said:

To be honest, nothing but nothing would now surprise me about the life these people lead inside the Prison. I used to be cynical of people that referred to is as the Jurby Hilton. But not now. As for the underwear shopping - jeez. Surely, the simple solution would be for either the Deputy Governor or George Stores to head into M&S lingerie then FaceTime the young lady requiring new undercrackers..or maybe it wouldn't be convenient for the prisoner if it was at a time when they had their gym session or busy with the "Sista" doing their nails whilst watching Loose Women eating their Salad Nicoise?

The programme is getting more embarrassing by the episode.

Quite why anyone needs butt lifting jeans in prison is anyone’s guess. Good job it wasn’t on the male wing! Although I suppose it pays to advertise. I have to agree that whole shopping thing was pathetic. When we’re feeding old folk who the DHSC are charging £800 a week for a room for about a fiver a day and you can’t get food in the hospital as they’ve always run out it’s bloody disgusting how we treat these arseholes quite frankly. Yet more proof that in the IOM the less you decide to contribute to society the more you actually get. But then I’m guessing the civil servants are used to that sort of system as they’re the biggest beneficiaries of an economy that works like that. 

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58 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

Varey is pure scum. A coward and a bully

Come along that man..... don't hold back now :D

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