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2 hours ago, Derek Flint said:

Anything you have to 'prepare' for is rarely a good thing. War, hurricanes, flooding. The signs are all there that in whatever form it takes, leaving the EU is going to be far from straightforward, inconvenient at best and difficult at worst. 

It does make you wonder if it was really bad enough to justify all this/

& eventually found to be impossible, trading ties with the UKs nearest neighbours are impossible to break even if they try very hard

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MPOR has published a new document to read in the event of a catastrophic 'No Deal' #Brexit

https://www.gov.im/media/1364451/190006-no-deal-brexit-guide-interactive-update.pdf

Be assured that government is largely indifferent to your concerns

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Ifs, buts and maybes.....but it will cost ya!........( no food shortages but choice may be limited, therefore there will be shortages of some things).......It didn't say the last bit, wonder why?

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1 hour ago, Donald Trumps said:

& eventually found to be impossible, trading ties with the UKs nearest neighbours are impossible to break even if they try very hard

That’s the whole thing isn’t it? The major benefit seems to be the thing that will be most damaged. 

I would imagine the real public backlash will be next year, when a pound sterling is worth less than a euro, and the fun of the  queues for passport control in the non EU channel starts to wear a bit thin at Alicante. 

That is where it will hit the common man, as a second wave of misery if the trading shortages predicted manifest themselves.

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22 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

That’s the whole thing isn’t it? The major benefit seems to be the thing that will be most damaged. 

I would imagine the real public backlash will be next year, when a pound sterling is worth less than a euro, and the fun of the  queues for passport control in the non EU channel starts to wear a bit thin at Alicante. 

That is where it will hit the common man, as a second wave of misery if the trading shortages predicted manifest themselves.

I think that will prove to be pretty much spot on. 

Do the police have any plans for large scale civil unrest? The Isle of Man always seems to have this can't really be arsed approach to protesting, so I'd be surprised if we see riots on the streets. 

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6 hours ago, Derek Flint said:

That’s the whole thing isn’t it? The major benefit seems to be the thing that will be most damaged. 

I would imagine the real public backlash will be next year, when a pound sterling is worth less than a euro, and the fun of the  queues for passport control in the non EU channel starts to wear a bit thin at Alicante. 

That is where it will hit the common man, as a second wave of misery if the trading shortages predicted manifest themselves.

Correct. A nation where the UK police were getting 999 calls when some KFC restaurants ran out of chicken.

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6 hours ago, Derek Flint said:

That is where it will hit the common man, as a second wave of misery if the trading shortages predicted manifest themselves.

Largely stated in black and white in the UK's document. Point 17. It will impact the low earners the most.

Thanks Boris, Jacob, Gove, Francois et al. Not that any of you will be meaningfully hit.

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Latest piece of bullshit from the states Propaganda Mouthpiece- 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/government-will-be-flexible-following-brexit/

To think Civil Servants have spent months or years to copy what the UK has already said is risible if not laughable. I know a civil servant taken off his current duties and switched to Brexit work. 

Of course a lot of the article says costs will rise, including electric and food. If this happens, I can see the members of IOMNP Facebook page, rising up with pitchforks chasing the likes of Chris Thomas and Rob Callister. 

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2 minutes ago, 2112 said:

, I can see the members of IOMNP Facebook page, rising up with pitchforks chasing the likes of Chris Thomas and Rob Callister. 

Not necessarily a bad thing at all.

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17 hours ago, foxdaleliberationfront said:

I think that will prove to be pretty much spot on. 

Do the police have any plans for large scale civil unrest? The Isle of Man always seems to have this can't really be arsed approach to protesting, so I'd be surprised if we see riots on the streets. 

It was pretty much policied out of training. The risk is so very small. Mind you, I might have reviewed that in light of the forthcoming. Hopefully the mutual aid MOU is up to date...

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19 hours ago, doc.fixit said:

Ifs, buts and maybes.....but it will cost ya!........( no food shortages but choice may be limited, therefore there will be shortages of some things).......It didn't say the last bit, wonder why?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/carry-out-international-road-haulage-after-brexit

Restrictions on UK road haulage within the Single Market ie Cabotage and Cross trades might have a major impact on supplies and haulage viability and it seems restrictions are already in place. Click the link above and then click Cabotage and Cross trades. JW has already made brief reference to this Cabotage principle..imagine this would impact on the Island in turn.

As for me I have commissioned an old fridge to be my Boris box and have stocked it with sardines, stews, tomatoes, tatties, pasta, also elsewhere toiletries, dental care etc. vitamin c, also lentils, stew mix ingredients, ie Boy Scout thinking plus camping gas stove.

Personally I  think Brexit will be like IOM when the ferries do not sail so shelves empty of produce at times due to delays and red tape  rather than nothing there at all.. On the other hand I notice toothpaste for instance made in Poland and Roumania...

The main aggro will be in UK farm and fish exports with allegedly a 40% tariff on sheep meat exports to the EU and that surely must hit the IOM likewise...

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can't export

can't import

soooo, re-direct the export goods to the home market to fill the gaps!

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15 minutes ago, doc.fixit said:

can't export

can't import

soooo, re-direct the export goods to the home market to fill the gaps!

You will both import and export it is the terms and conditions that matter.

As regards sheep meat we could not possibly use all we produce and anyway it is subsidised and that I believe still applies to IOM...The essence of UK and IOM trade is that just about anything we have for sale is cheaper elsewhere.

The EU provides a controlled and protected market linked to numerous Free Trade agreements which we are leaving. Also export goods such as machinery and manufactures are these days specialist and intended for overseas markets. Probably no market at home and then we have the issue of raw materials. 

Simple fact. The UK expects a deal from the EU but has so far not told the EU in writing what sort of deal it wants hence the halfway house of the much rejected Withdrawal Agreement. 

The UK does not know what sort of deal to ask for as it already has  the very same deal it would dream of regarding EU trade as an EU member...After leaving the EU there will be a ten year tussle sorting out the residual complications and negotiating another trading arrangement....So no clean break Brexit anyway...The EU rules and regs will be adhered to for quite some time..

 

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3 hours ago, Barrie Stevens said:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/carry-out-international-road-haulage-after-brexit

Restrictions on UK road haulage within the Single Market ie Cabotage and Cross trades might have a major impact on supplies and haulage viability and it seems restrictions are already in place. Click the link above and then click Cabotage and Cross trades. JW has already made brief reference to this Cabotage principle..imagine this would impact on the Island in turn.

As for me I have commissioned an old fridge to be my Boris box and have stocked it with sardines, stews, tomatoes, tatties, pasta, also elsewhere toiletries, dental care etc. vitamin c, also lentils, stew mix ingredients, ie Boy Scout thinking plus camping gas stove.

Personally I  think Brexit will be like IOM when the ferries do not sail so shelves empty of produce at times due to delays and red tape  rather than nothing there at all.. On the other hand I notice toothpaste for instance made in Poland and Roumania...

The main aggro will be in UK farm and fish exports with allegedly a 40% tariff on sheep meat exports to the EU and that surely must hit the IOM likewise...

Thank you for introducing me to cabotage Bazza - it is new to me

 

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2 hours ago, Barrie Stevens said:

You will both import and export it is the terms and conditions that matter.

As regards sheep meat we could not possibly use all we produce and anyway it is subsidised and that I believe still applies to IOM...The essence of UK and IOM trade is that just about anything we have for sale is cheaper elsewhere.

The EU provides a controlled and protected market linked to numerous Free Trade agreements which we are leaving. Also export goods such as machinery and manufactures are these days specialist and intended for overseas markets. Probably no market at home and then we have the issue of raw materials. 

Simple fact. The UK expects a deal from the EU but has so far not told the EU in writing what sort of deal it wants hence the halfway house of the much rejected Withdrawal Agreement. 

The UK does not know what sort of deal to ask for as it already has  the very same deal it would dream of regarding EU trade as an EU member...After leaving the EU there will be a ten year tussle sorting out the residual complications and negotiating another trading arrangement....So no clean break Brexit anyway...The EU rules and regs will be adhered to for quite some time..

 

You'd think they'd research what the UK population want from #Brexit

Much like IOMG researches what Manx people want from their politicians & public service



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