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Why not a 'Voluntary' MOT system?

One where you could voluntarily undergo an MOT at one of a number of certified centres and then display an 'I've been checked' disc a bit like tax discs. No absolute guarantee that you will not be stopped by Plod for random check but an acknowledgement that you prefer to keep your vehicle roadworthy and hence focus attention (and random checks) more on those that choose not to have regular safety checks.

Could be different coloured discs showing the periodicity that you have signed up to - I would happily sign up to say 6 monthly checks of the important accident causing stuff, Brakes, Steering, Tyres, Suspension etc. providing that it was a simple, quick, cost-effective check.

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2 hours ago, Rog said:

I'm more than a little disappointed that those who do keep a watching brief on this site haven't triggered a formal clarification from the Manx government though.  

There’s a really good reason for that.
 

GB legislation does not say every car on its roads has to have an MOT or equivalent. You’ve been asked to identify the legislation, you can’t. You point to a section of the RTA that applies to GB registered vehicles only.

Non GB registered cars present in GB temporarily have to be compliant with their homel legislation, ie be street legal in the jurisdiction of registration.

Your problem doesn’t exist, except in your mind.

 

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5 hours ago, Rog said:

I've written to them (Friday last) asking for an update.  Thus far only the usual "we've got your message"

I'm NOT going to let this drop though and my next step will be raising the same question with the AA and maybe with my car insurer.

I'm more than a little disappointed that those who do keep a watching brief on this site haven't triggered a formal clarification from the Manx government though.  

Perhaps they think that nothing's going to happen.

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3 hours ago, Manximus Aururaneus said:

Why not a 'Voluntary' MOT system?

 

 

2 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said:

That’s what we have already. People decide whether they want to get their car serviced or not annually and whether to follow up on all the advisories. Some do. Some don’t. It’s entirely voluntary. 

Absolutely! We are adults and the vast majority of us are diligent in keeping our vehicles in good condition. We don't need MOTs. We don't need any silly colour coding system to say that we are up to scratch. We have it covered.

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On 12/13/2019 at 5:50 PM, Max Power said:

I don't mean retained numbers, I mean cars which have retained an IoM number and taxed and in use in the UK or elsewhere.

It's nothing like it used to be so I imagine that the stock of numbers shifts slowly enough to balance out to what the previous income was. The prices are absolutely crazy, IoMG are asking the same rates as the number plate sharks in the UK.

I wonder how many MANX plates they've sold. You don't see too many kicking around.

Fees for certain high-value registration marks

 Item Registration marks Fees (£)
1 MANX 1 100,000
2 1 MANX 50,000
3 MANX 007, MANX 888, 007 MANX, or 888 MANX 20,000
4 “MANX” followed by the number 001, 01, 2, 3, 5, 8, 911, or 999 15,000
5 “MANX” preceded by the number 001, 01, 8, 911, or 999 15,000
6 “MANX” followed by the number 4, 6, 7, 9, 13, 26, 32, 40, 43, 46, 52, 53, 60, 69, 70, 80, 89, 90, 99, 147, 500, 928, 944, 958, or 986 10,000
7 “MANX” preceded by the number 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 26, 32, 40, 46, 52, 60, 69, 70, 80, 89, 90, 99, 147, 500, 928, 944, 958, or 986 10,000
8 “MANX” followed or preceded by a number from 02 to 09 inclusive 10,000
9 “MANX” followed by the number 087, 088, 110, 124, 125, 129, 130, 135, 155, 156, 163, 164, 166, 168, 170, 172, 180, 182, 202, 203, 206, 207, 210, 220, 222, 250, 300, 307, 320, 323, 330, 333, 350, 355, 360, 365, 400, 407, 430, 444, 458, 504, 508, 535, 540, 550, 555, 575, 599, 600, 605, 607, 612, 626, 666, 700, 748, 750, 777, 800, 806, 900, or 998 7,500
10 “MANX” preceded by the number 087, 088, 110, 124, 125, 129, 130, 155, 156, 163, 164, 166, 168, 170, 172, 180, 182, 202, 203, 206, 207, 210, 220, 222, 250, 300, 307, 320, 323, 330, 333, 350, 355, 360, 365, 400, 407, 430, 444, 458, 504, 508, 535, 540, 550, 555, 575, 599, 600, 605, 607, 612, 626, 666, 700, 748, 750, 777, 800, 806, 900, or 998 7,500
11 “MANX” followed or preceded by the number 002, 003, 004, 005, 006, 008 or 009 7,500
12 “MANX” followed or preceded by a number from 10 to 99 inclusive (unless in item 6 or 7) 7,500
13 “MANX” followed or preceded by a number from 010 to 099 inclusive other than 087 or 088 5,000
14 “MANX” followed or preceded by a number from 100 to 999 inclusive other than 888 or 999 or in item 6, 7, 9 or 10
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On 12/12/2019 at 6:19 PM, Non-Believer said:

I didn't suggest that there was, but I don't think the records are particularly accurate.

I personally can't believe that there's 77k (taxed) vehicles on the roads over here. Plus the untaxed ones as well of course!

That would suggest that the roads would be busier now than during the more economically active times in the early noughties?

 

On 12/12/2019 at 6:24 PM, TheTeapot said:

I think they are, much busier.

Isn't perception strange? I find the total opposite. Way, way quieter on the roads now than 15 years ago. For example, the queue along the Prom in the morning (roadworks excluded) used to be up around White City standing traffic back then about 0830 on most days. Nowadays you seldom get stopped. Most days just slowed a little while alternate vehicles weave at the foot of Summerhill Road, and then it keeps moving right into town. I appreciate that some employment has moved to the Business Park.

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1 hour ago, woolley said:

 

Isn't perception strange? I find the total opposite. Way, way quieter on the roads now than 15 years ago. For example, the queue along the Prom in the morning (roadworks excluded) used to be up around White City standing traffic back then about 0830 on most days. Nowadays you seldom get stopped. Most days just slowed a little while alternate vehicles weave at the foot of Summerhill Road, and then it keeps moving right into town. I appreciate that some employment has moved to the Business Park.

I think the same thing. I often drive to Castletown and back hitting Douglas at 8.20-8.30am. I sail virtually straight through the QB where I can recall a time when I worked at Westminster Motors in the 1980s when the traffic backed up way past Saddle Road at 8.20 to 9am. I don't have very much bother navigating downtown Douglas at this or any other time either? Maybe this is why there is a perception that the TT causes gridlock,we just aren't used to traffic any more? 

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Drove through Onchan at lunchtime on Thursday. Heading past the commissioners building towards Douglas I realised there was only me on the road, and I could see through all of the traffic lights to the Lazy Corner roundabout. What? It was like a scene from The Survivors.

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Crow wanted.

Please forward to me!

I've finally had a reply to my query re the need for vehicles from the island and so without MOT or formal vehicle inspection and certification being driven on UK roads and I WAS WRONG!

Here is the final and formal reply to my query ----

Vehicles from the Isle of Man that arrive without any form of 
roadworthiness test
Thank you for your follow-up email.
Vehicles which are visiting from the Isle of Man are exempt from 
roadworthiness testing if they are in Great Britain temporarily and have been 
here less than 12 months, per the Motor Vehicles (Tests) Regulations 1981, 
Regulation 6(1)(xi). These regulations can be found here, 
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1981/1694/regulation/6/made, and I have 
replicated them below for your convenience. 
6.—(1) Pursuant to section 44(4) the Secretary of State hereby prescribes the 
following vehicles as those to which section 44 does not apply:—

(xi)a vehicle temporarily in Great Britain displaying a registration mark mentioned in 
Regulation 5 of the Motor Vehicles (International Circulation) Regulations 1971, a period of 
twelve months not having elapsed since the vehicle was last brought into Great Britain
If a vehicle is moving from the Isle of Man to Great Britain permanently it 
would need to be registered and tested in Great Britain.
Yours sincerely
Antony Ovens
Policy Adviser, Roadworthiness and Vehicle Testing

However I had a number of phone calls leading up to this and it was suggested that this situation might well change as a result of changes that will come in as BREXIT progresses.

It was also suggested that it would probably be a good idea for anyone bringing a car to the mainland to carry details of why they did not need to have a current MOT in case of being stopped or involved in an incident as this provision had required a lot of searching before a clear answer was turned up.

 

So there you go!  Mea Culpa or just my bad --- I got it wrong.

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