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10 minutes ago, P.K. said:

Unless critical mass is the only way forward.

Sometimes you just despair...

It isn't. Garff initiative is a good model for other LAs to follow, but not takeover by government. In central government, as has been proven many times, growth merely leads to more waste.

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Just now, woolley said:

It isn't. Garff initiative is a good model for other LAs to follow, but not take over by government. In central government, as has been proven many times, growth merely leads to more waste.

Numbers?

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13 minutes ago, P.K. said:

Unless critical mass is the only way forward.

Sometimes you just despair...

 

2 minutes ago, P.K. said:

Numbers?

I am guessing 18 stone?

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Let's make it simple on the critical mass calculation.

Let's go large. Are the facilities at the New(ish) Nobles hospital justified by the critical mass calculation? Be cautious here, because affordability is an issue.

Let's go small. The recent farrago around PE, PSM and Rushen. Face it, only an idiot wouldn't think that ALL of those living in that postage-stamp area aren't making use of ALL the facilities on offer...

Ahhh yes....

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10 hours ago, woolley said:

Best recipe for increasing costs is doing away with local authorities. Everything the government gets involved in means increased cost. Big is not beautiful!

Believe me Wools, some of what our local authorities aspire to in attitude and squander in money is the equal of central Govt already.

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Agree completely Woolley, at least if you have a problem or gripe you can always get hold of someone in the commissioners and some action, if a big central government took over no chance, it would be passed from department to department.   Also with local authorities the people involved will have the same interests/problems as they will be living in the same area.   Bigger is never better.

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1 hour ago, Non-Believer said:

Believe me Wools, some of what our local authorities aspire to in attitude and squander in money is the equal of central Govt already.

I accept there is a bit of that,  but in central government it's a religion. You would also lose a lot of local knowledge and replace people who do a lot of work free and gratis with highly paid pen pushers.  

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Just now, woolley said:

I accept there is a bit of that,  but in central government it's a religion. You would also lose a lot of local knowledge and replace people who do a lot of work free and gratis with highly paid pen pushers.  

The question is though, Why does it have to be this way? Why cannot Govt. run operations in an efficient, minimalist way (anywhere)? Without swelling and bloating its numbers and liabilities to excess?

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7 hours ago, hissingsid said:

Agree completely Woolley, at least if you have a problem or gripe you can always get hold of someone in the commissioners and some action, if a big central government took over no chance, it would be passed from department to department.   Also with local authorities the people involved will have the same interests/problems as they will be living in the same area.   Bigger is never better.

Totally. Complete disaster of an idea except for the civil service empire builders. Anyone who believes that handing anything over to the government will work out cheaper is deluded. 

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2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

The question is though, Why does it have to be this way? Why cannot Govt. run operations in an efficient, minimalist way (anywhere)? Without swelling and bloating its numbers and liabilities to excess?

That's the big question. But they need to answer it within their current remit rather than be given even more responsibilities upon which to practice their amply salaried and pensioned profligacy.  

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6 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

The question is though, Why does it have to be this way? Why cannot Govt. run operations in an efficient, minimalist way (anywhere)? Without swelling and bloating its numbers and liabilities to excess?

It's a good question. The cabinet office have taken it on board and have appointed 3 researchers, a secretary and a manager to look into it.

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2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

It's a good question. The cabinet office have taken it on board and have appointed 3 researchers, a secretary and a manager to look into it.

And that is just the start of it...

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11 hours ago, P.K. said:

Numbers?

Since when were you an advocate for larger central government?  I thought you were the opposite. 

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45 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

It's a good question. The cabinet office have taken it on board and have appointed 3 researchers, a secretary and a manager to look into it.

With a bit of luck they will put Rob in charge...

 

 

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5 hours ago, Neil Down said:

With a bit of luck they will put Rob in charge...

 

 

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Oh fuck no, please

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