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26 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

But that's exactly what happens already Roger. Either the private owners lapse maintenance through their age or lack of interest, or developers snap it up and do it deliberately to aid their case for demolition. Majestic being prime example. Hotel at Langness another. Groudle Hotel.

I can't understand how it's permitted to overtly happen with listed buildings though (well, I can.....)

Part of the problem is that the power to enforce such things is still left to the local authorities.  None of them have the resources to do except Douglas and they seem mainly to reserve it for the odd vendetta.  There isn't really the will to do anything centrally and nothing on the positive side either (eg help to registered buildings).  Making developers happy is the main requirement.

The worst thing is there seems to be a complete lack of understanding about how having an attractive built environment is something that makes people want to come to live and work in places.  The Victorian stuff may have been jerry-built, but at least they made it look attractive and appealing to their potential customers.   

It's not just about what they get rid of - the replacements that are proposed and approved are also incredibly unattractive and too big for their surroundings, because all that matters is to make as much money as possible (possibly by selling on with planning permission).  You only have to look at the proposed (and passed) developments on South Quay and on Duke Street,  both of which manage the difficult feat of being worse than what is already there.

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I'd not seen the South Quay one before, thanks for linking to it. It's hideous.

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Was the wall not given the grey thistle undercoat initially?

I was wiring an old gaff in Glen Whyllin which had a steel RSJ put in where a dividing support-wall had been removed. One end of the joist was sitting on 75mm of block. Probably measured too short for the span to begin with.

On another job, a 60's build, I found an asbestos lining in the wall cavity. When I told the site manager about he said, "if you don't say anything, I won't." I told the client and the manager sacked me on the spot. Then the client sacked him and took me back on. 

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No, no undercoat, just finishing plaster. Mental.

Those other stories are exactly the kind of thing I come up against all the time. Had to dig a big hole one so that we could get rid of some asbestos before anyone knew about it. I don't work for that guy anymore.

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Mental is right. Worked up at that estate in Laxey, can't remember the name (Ard Rheayrt?). The boss had the digger driver dig a hole which ended up around 3 metres deep, 5 metres wide and 7 metres long. Into it went an old van (no shit!) a chest freezer, a couple of fridges, a half-filled 45 gallon drum with shitty diesel in it we'd cleaned the scaffold clamps with and tipper load of assorted site rubble. It is now a landscaped garden behind an overpriced house...

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30 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

No, no undercoat, just finishing plaster. Mental.

Be fun getting a nail in if they ever tried to hang a picture on the wall. 

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Ooooo! A house with a Van thrown in! What No is it please Quilpy?

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58 minutes ago, quilp said:

Mental is right. Worked up at that estate in Laxey, can't remember the name (Ard Rheayrt?). The boss had the digger driver dig a hole which ended up around 3 metres deep, 5 metres wide and 7 metres long. Into it went an old van (no shit!) a chest freezer, a couple of fridges, a half-filled 45 gallon drum with shitty diesel in it we'd cleaned the scaffold clamps with and tipper load of assorted site rubble. It is now a landscaped garden behind an overpriced house...

1000 years from now a Phd archeology student will dig that lot up in support of writing a thesis on ‘Shite Manx Builders of the 20th Century: yet-a-fucking-nother’

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No. Future generations will dig it up and open a gallery at the Manx National Museum to display it, replacing the Motorsports gallery with this fine example of Manx Culture!!!!!!!!!!!

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2 hours ago, Kopek said:

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Ooooo! A house with a Van thrown in! What No is it please Quilpy?

Lol. They were all 'shells' when I worked up there. And more were built after I left but it was the back garden of the fifth or sixth house down from the first build.

Iirc, it was a Ford Escort van, with the front and back doors removed...

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Back doors, schmak doors, I need to get a 2.4 in there!!!

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55 minutes ago, Kopek said:

No. Future generations will dig it up and open a gallery at the Manx National Museum to display it, replacing the Motorsports gallery with this fine example of Manx Culture!!!!!!!!!!!

Just as long as they leave the felt alone.

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Tearing down old lath and plaster ceilings is not my favourite activity. What a mess.

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If an audit is really needed, just rip up the existing register and start from scratch. There are buildings on the current one that don't need to be on it and possibly others that should be included. 

Point in case is the rat-infested dump at the end of Queens Promenade passed off as a stable.

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