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Seems to be a fair bit of online teeth gnashing over the decision to close the mines off to the public. Seems a bit of a shitty thing to do really, there are always people up there on bikes, and if they are there they aren't trashing somewhere else.

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/anger-and-upset-over-snuff-the-wind-closure/

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the contaminants won't be an issue if someone with a few quid wants to build a big house on it.

I suppose I should reserve judgement until I've seen the supporting evidence. But I would have also supposed that Baker and Boot would have shared that evidence before decreeing that they will, withou

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4 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Seems to be a fair bit of online teeth gnashing over the decision to close the mines off to the public. Seems a bit of a shitty thing to do really, there are always people up there on bikes, and if they are there they aren't trashing somewhere else.

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/anger-and-upset-over-snuff-the-wind-closure/

Very piss poor excuse for doing it too.:angry:

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9 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Seems to be a fair bit of online teeth gnashing over the decision to close the mines off to the public. Seems a bit of a shitty thing to do really, there are always people up there on bikes, and if they are there they aren't trashing somewhere else.

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/anger-and-upset-over-snuff-the-wind-closure/

Who’d have guessed that an old lead mine would be found to have had some contaminants in the soil after the geniuses at the DOI had tested it?  It’s only been there 100 odd years so it’s just been waiting for the right management team at the DOI to shut down any recreational enjoyment of an unsightly disused dump. 

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Surely it's a great opportunity for the 'community' to set up something which is properly organised, insured etc - on private property. Which is the direction the entire off-road thing should be going anyhow.

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Properly organised, insured etc means one thing. £££££ for those wishing to participate, even if it's just casual recreation or letting kids have a run out or learning to ride. The costs of competition now price many out of the sport so they turn to casual non-competitive riding instead. They'll just go and do it somewhere else now, unfortunately that will raise further complaints.

I'd like to see the evidence for this closure in respect of the effects and hazards claimed, in particular given that this was to be the dump site for the Peel Marina silt a couple of months ago! Other than job justification for the Govt's expensive cabal of eco-warriors. Those spoil areas have been weathering under wind and rain for 100+ years. A few motorbikes over them isn't contributing much disturbance. And certainly not the sort of disturbance inflicted on similar spoil heaps further down in Foxdale when Jimmy Cubbon built his mansion on them.

Odd that, isn't it? The Isle of Man, where you Can't. Have Fun.

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Tim Baker has done little other than regurgitate the crap he's been spoon-fed since he came into office. His utterings on the Prom fiasco are another example.

He should stick to judging nothing more adventurous than CS knitting, embroidery and tiddlywink competitions.

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1 hour ago, Non-Believer said:

Tim Baker has done little other than regurgitate the crap he's been spoon-fed since he came into office. His utterings on the Prom fiasco are another example.

Try this multiple choice exam:

Tim Baker does this because:

(a) He’s a bit stupid

(b) He’s really rather substantially stupid 

(c) He’s too busy bothering god when he’s not being stupid

(d) Along with virtually all the 2016 new intake of MHKs he’s promised not to rock Quayle’s yacht (but cheers for the cash)

(e) He lives nowhere near Snuff the Wind or Douglas Prom and doesn’t give a fuck

(f) All of the above

 

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f).  And quite clearly. Maybe God will tell him one day. Somebody needs to.

If my memory serves me, the mines further down (Ballacottier?) were ruled out of bounds some years ago too, on the grounds that there was some rare type of grasshopper down there. Should be millions of them by now then...

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2 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

Tim Baker has done little other than regurgitate the crap he's been spoon-fed since he came into office

It's  Super Tim to you! 

Let's not be too harsh on him, he's still hurting after HQ didn't pick him to be a Minister! 

 

 

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Just to double check, they have scrapped that mental idea to put all the dried out shit they're going to dig out of peel harbour back up here haven't they?

Yes, it's too contaminated now apparently so Harmer announced in January that it's going to be dumped in Turkeyland quarry. Cos that's not near water or the sea or anything.

Which oddly enough is completely at odds with DOI's own waste management strategy too, which seeks to avoid landfill.

ETA. Perhaps Mr Baker would also like to comment on the DOI's ongoing practice of pumping Raggatt leachate into the Peel Sewerage system?

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22 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Yes, it's too contaminated now apparently so Harmer announced in January that it's going to be dumped in Turkeyland quarry. Cos that's not near water or the sea or anything.

Which oddly enough is completely at odds with DOI's own waste management strategy too, which seeks to avoid landfill.

ETA. Perhaps Mr Baker would also like to comment on the DOI's ongoing practice of pumping Raggatt leachate into the Peel Sewerage system?

It’s the perfect government expenditure though isn’t it? Didn’t need to be done in the first place, costs vastly more than it will ever generate in marina fees in the next 100 years, and creates 10 years plus of very expensive work for contractors. Also requires a whole department of government to be tied up in its own red tape, public enquirIes and reports for at least the next 20 years. it’s the sort of enormous clusterfuck that will keep a whole department busy for years for no real benefit to anyone. Many will see their pensions out on this. 

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