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54 minutes ago, Townend said:

My prediction 14 days quarantine in the Sefton by the airport. Only released if test negative. Alternatively 14 days on the Wirral with the same deal.

If they're going to come on the boat, why on earth would you cart them down to the Airport, to stay in the only hotel that has other guests? (Air crew)

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Perhaps I am being daft but could someone explain why the returning people would need to go in to a hotel? There are people on this island that we know with certainty have the disease and yet we are happy for them to remain in their own home and trust them not to go out. The people returning from off island may possibly have the virus but at the same time so could you or I. Are they really a substantially higher risk than you or I? I fully support them going in to quarantine for 2 weeks but I don't see why it needs to be anywhere other than their residence. 

The way I would organize it would be to make them get the 2am sailing from Heysham. Insist on them providing their own transport from the sea terminal and then perhaps provide them with a police escort following behind them to make sure they went home. As it would be about 6am and we would be able to spare the police. Would be best to limit the number returning to about 5 family groups per sailing so they can sit separately.

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3 hours ago, woolley said:

That would seem to be a sure way to scare the population even more. E.g Cornwall. Makes it look more deadly than it is.

100 confirmed cases and 10 deaths in Dumfries and Galloway  -

https://www.itv.com/news/border/2020-04-02/ten-patients-die-in-dumfries-and-galloway-due-to-coronavirus/

Barrow/Cumbria -

https://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/18349273.cumbrias-coronavirus-death-toll-rises---20-furness-general-hospital/

https://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/18355365.eight-coronavirus-deaths-recorded-cumbria-hospitals/

Isle of Wight has had a third death -

https://www.islandecho.co.uk/third-islander-dies-from-coronavirus-confirms-isle-of-wight-nhs-trust/

 

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5 hours ago, Kopek said:

....but then what?

Mild or medium symptoms, self isolate.

More serious, in Hosp or more at home attention?

Very serious, straight into Hosp and close observance, treatment?

Which is exactly what we are doing with our current rate of testing , contact tracing or self reporting!

More testing, more medic time taken up, saving of which is the whole point of distancing?

Stats, figures, tests - whatever. The 'curve' has got to be flattened. Stay inside, don't go out. Everyone who doesn't need to be out - stay at home.

 

1 hour ago, Chinahand said:

Goodbye old t-shirts, hello face protection!

 

We're not talking about dust. We're talking about a virus. And what about the eyes? 

The problem with this sort of thing, is it gives a false sense of security. And that in the hands of the average person is worse, far worse than useless. Used properly it maybe of use but would need to be dumped after use, or kept until any possible contamination is destroyed,, and that is an unknown. Sources suggest anything from a few hours to a few days. Or washing machine at least 60 degrees.



 

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Put yourself in the position of the captain of the Ben....and think of the practicalities of shipping 50 people that have arrived from various world hot-spots...potentially having been on aircraft/ships and in airport and transport systems with dozens of others from world hot-spots...

...the 2m rule, everything these people could touch and protecting your crew and other essential workers on board and the required deep clean afterwards...and you're sailing again in 8 hours.

Logic clearly dictates these people would need to self isolate for 2 weeks in a UK hotel first...and be shipped back in small coordinated groups.

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Thing is Albert that the Steam packet crews are in and out of the U.K. / IOM all the time. As are air crew. As are the delivery drivers. As are all those emergency people coming in an out. Not sure your logic holds up really. And you might want to try booking an hotel in the UK these days. A bit difficult as most are shut and those open are , quite rightly , for key workers only.

Unless of course you don’t consider the U.K. as a hotspot for the above mentioned. Or the IOM for that matter with its limited resources and I doubt the U.K. is in a position to help out if matters deteriorate.

Anyway , stay safe.

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6 hours ago, Nellie said:

If they're going to come on the boat, why on earth would you cart them down to the Airport, to stay in the only hotel that has other guests? (Air crew)

Because we need to isolate them for two weeks, away from family and major population centres. If they want to come back at this stage there is a price to pay. Like those returning to uk from Wuhan 14 days quarantine, until they test negative. We can’t take the risk.

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1 hour ago, Townend said:

Because we need to isolate them for two weeks, away from family and major population centres. If they want to come back at this stage there is a price to pay. Like those returning to uk from Wuhan 14 days quarantine, until they test negative. We can’t take the risk.

Things are very different to the time of the Wuhan evacuation. Then there were no emergency regulations, no lock down, no social distancing, no social isolation enforced by law.

Bringing home and requiring self isolation is no more dangerous and poses no more risk than the rest of the population do to each other now. It’s a small number.

Im sure that the steam Packet and airlines are doing proper disinfecting cleaning between sailings and flights in any event.

There is a story on Facebook about a Manx couple who were trapped on a cruise denied disembarkation in the Caribbean, US, Tenerife, mainland Spain, France, Italy. Eventually unloaded at Savona, quarantined in a hotel, then evacuated by FCO to London on 29/3. Article suggests they are home in IoM. That shouldn’t have been possible as that was after the border closed.

https://www.facebook.com/142128942488878/posts/2844293785605700 

 

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