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8 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Hmmm...maybe:

1. Keep schools open (force virus to reveal itself and nip in bud - evidence it does not impact kids) allowing parents to still work and kids to do exams, while 2. keeping the vulnerable isolated, while 3. doing far more random (Doctor driven) testing, while 4) limiting entry to the island and testing ALL new visitors or returners.

We could then perhaps be one of the first jurisdictions to be declared corona free.

Then tourism can start again...provided you are tested before you head on holiday here. The oldy tourists will then flock here cos its safe (even if they need a test)....and our economy here could get back to as near as normal.

6 months and all could be normal here?

 

Too easily spread, AT. Nobody knows (yet) or can predict what the lifespan of this is. Or if it's going to mutate, God forbid. It's very, very open ended at the moment. How could anywhere (certainly at present) be declared Corona-free? The only people who can kill this are the geneticists and virologists.

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19 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Hmmm...maybe:

1. Keep schools open (force virus to reveal itself and nip in bud - evidence it does not impact kids) allowing parents to still work and kids to do exams, while 2. keeping the vulnerable isolated, while 3. doing far more random (Doctor driven) testing, while 4) limiting entry to the island and testing ALL new visitors or returners.

We could then perhaps be one of the first jurisdictions to be declared corona free.

Then tourism can start again...provided you are tested before you head on holiday here. The oldy tourists will then flock here cos its safe (even if they need a test)....and our economy here could get back to as near as normal.

6 months and all could be normal here?

 

Having it spread rapidly through school kids will result in it spreading rapidly through school kids' parents. And so on. 

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I live in Singapore and the government has been very aggressive with imposing restrictions on anyone with recent travel to any of the COVID-19 hot spots. Everything is communicated clearly by the government and the Prime Minister. They test all influenza-like/pneumonia cases and trace every possible contact of those infected.

Whilst I understand some of the steps Singapore has taken will be hard to replicate by other governments I hope the IOM government can use some initiative and quickly implement successful protocols from around the world instead of waiting to see what Boris and the UK gov does.  

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7 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Hmmm...maybe:

1. Keep schools open (force virus to reveal itself and nip in bud - evidence it does not impact kids) allowing parents to still work and kids to do exams, while 2. keeping the vulnerable isolated, while 3. doing far more random (Doctor driven) testing, while 4) limiting entry to the island and testing ALL new visitors or returners.

We could then perhaps be one of the first jurisdictions to be declared corona free.

Then tourism can start again...provided you are tested before you head on holiday here. The oldy tourists will then flock here cos its safe (even if they need a test)....and our economy here could get back to as near as normal.

6 months and all could be normal here?

 

we are the coffin dodgers paradise.

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9 hours ago, Kopek said:

Which is more infectious, Corona Virus or MF bickering?

 

UK schools are now all set to close this week. Latest statement from IOM is " Schools to stay open 'For now' "but this was at 7-30pm, most like;ly that the  situation will change, schools  to close, when Our Govt get together in the morning!!!, presumably after stuffing their selves with Pasta???

The biggest problem for returning residents, will be, will they really self isolate? Could be that, like drink driving, ignoring this advice, should become 'anti social'?

If a work colleague returns to work before the two weeks are up, should you complain to your management?

If 2 weeks is the incubation period, then we are in a 4 week window of danger, those retuirning now under self isolation rules and those who returned in the previous 2 weeks ( who have not yet been through the 2 week incubation period)_.

One would hope that there is a personal responsibiliy feeling to do the right thing!!!

Here's my first hand experience: arrived for the afternoon sailing at Heysham yesterday to be given a leaflet to explain that I would have to self-isolate for 14 days. The couple sitting next to me were visitors who should be doing the same. However, they have a meeting with an advocate today, see some friends over the weekend and depart on Tuesday.

How does that work?

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7 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

Here's my first hand experience: arrived for the afternoon sailing at Heysham yesterday to be given a leaflet to explain that I would have to self-isolate for 14 days. The couple sitting next to me were visitors who should be doing the same. However, they have a meeting with an advocate today, see some friends over the weekend and depart on Tuesday.

How does that work?

Apart from returning residents and those essential to the emergency, the ferries should only be carrying freight IMO.

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11 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

Here's my first hand experience: arrived for the afternoon sailing at Heysham yesterday to be given a leaflet to explain that I would have to self-isolate for 14 days. The couple sitting next to me were visitors who should be doing the same. However, they have a meeting with an advocate today, see some friends over the weekend and depart on Tuesday.

How does that work?

The couple next to you should have been told if you dont reside on the island you're not going. 

 

 

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7 hours ago, HeliX said:

Having it spread rapidly through school kids will result in it spreading rapidly through school kids' parents. And so on. 

...yet what is actually happening is what I laid out above i.e. they are now keeping schools open here, and isolating the vulnerable  :)

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I’m sure it was an option in the decision making, but I was wondering this morning why it wasn’t a more palatable one:

close the borders to all but leavers and homecomers

Anyone coming in to be isolated at a hotel for 14 days or until a confirmed clear test.

life on island continues absolutely as normal.

In response to a positive test that hasn’t been isolated, full lockdown measures then invoked.

The way we are carrying on just seems to invite the inevitable of the virus arriving and spreading. I’m sure it isn’t this simple, but taking this approach may well have been more supportive of the economy in the long run. 

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The supermarkets should actively encourage people to keep apart from each other. Paint traffic calming style markers on the floor if they can't get the official decals.

Shoprite is a nightmare. Obviously sick and elderly coughing and sneezing into their hands, on each other and touching everything.

And test the whole population.

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18 minutes ago, Lxxx said:

Are we remembering this is a relatively mild virus for the vast majority of the population with a large proportion being infected and not even realising it or are we still reading the headlines of the Daily Mail?

People who do not know they have it may pose the greatest risk of spreading it. That's the case which is being made for much wider testing and strict isolation of those found to be infected.

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We've taken to putting everything delivered to us by the supermarket into a bin liner and squirting a blast of Dettol spray in it, tying the bag up, and leaving it for around an hour before then putting the stuff away.  Same with post. Squirt of Dettol before doing anything about opening.  Fortunately amongst the things that we've stockpiled Dettol disinfectants figure high because it is one of the most effective against all viruses as is Wright's coal tar soap.

Fortunately we started stockpiling early because it was obvious what was coming down the pike and once announcements were being made to not stockpile that should have triggered anyone with an ounce of common sense to go into overdrive.

Things that are in very short supply are flour both plain and self rising,  aspirin along with butter, suet (!) and salt. Zoflora is also getting to be like hens teeth. Bread mix - there just isn't any and dried yeast is getting a bit scarce in our village shop.  So is bottled water.

One thing that is a bit of a concern, at least to me, is if this virus might be transmissible by some of the flying insects that pester us as the year progresses, we do actually get a number of mosquito things in these parts. Squash them and they often leave blood in the remains if they've recently bitten someone/something. I've bought in a couple of big boxes of "Moon Tigers" just in case.

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