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20 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said:

It would seem perhaps that he has just helped with the justification for the quarantine rather than the softer self isolation at home. The 400 seem to be getting far more media attention than they deserve, lets hear more questions that affect the other 70,000 odd population.

Send the ungrateful wretch back to where he came from and leave him there.

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4 minutes ago, On The Bus said:

It does appear that Covid-19 has a curious impact upon the BAME population. 

In the UK BAME account for 14% of the total population, but 35% of the deaths from Covid-19 are from the BAME population.

Likewise the first 12 doctors to die from it in the UK were all 'non-white'. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/16/inquiry-disproportionate-impact-coronavirus-bame

Living conditions. Large households with young and elderly. Social proximity in general. Much first cousin marriage. All possible factors.

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5 minutes ago, On The Bus said:

It does appear that Covid-19 has a curious impact upon the BAME population. 

In the UK BAME account for 14% of the total population, but 35% of the deaths from Covid-19 are from the BAME population.

Likewise the first 12 doctors to die from it in the UK were all 'non-white'. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/16/inquiry-disproportionate-impact-coronavirus-bame

K-K-Kovid - 19   ?

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22 minutes ago, On The Bus said:

It does appear that Covid-19 has a curious impact upon the BAME population. 

In the UK BAME account for 14% of the total population, but 35% of the deaths from Covid-19 are from the BAME population.

Likewise the first 12 doctors to die from it in the UK were all 'non-white'. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/16/inquiry-disproportionate-impact-coronavirus-bame

Well they did invent it!

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12 minutes ago, On The Bus said:

This is exactly the point and 92% of deaths occur in those aged over 70+ 

No they don't.  According to that BBC piece "In 91% of cases the individuals had other health problems".  Though as I've pointed out before those might not be serious.  In fact if you look at the actual ONS Report (see fig 7), 19.2% of the deaths were in the under 70s, so 80.8% in 70+.

But there has to be a big warning on this report - it is only for deaths that happened in March (and possibly not all of those).  Not only is this a small percentage of all those who have died, it's probable that the most vulnerable would be those to go first - the most elderly and those with several underlying conditions.  So the patient mix may change quite a lot in future reports.

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10 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

No they don't.  According to that BBC piece "In 91% of cases the individuals had other health problems".  Though as I've pointed out before those might not be serious.  In fact if you look at the actual ONS Report (see fig 7), 19.2% of the deaths were in the under 70s, so 80.8% in 70+.

But there has to be a big warning on this report - it is only for deaths that happened in March (and possibly not all of those).  Not only is this a small percentage of all those who have died, it's probable that the most vulnerable would be those to go first - the most elderly and those with several underlying conditions.  So the patient mix may change quite a lot in future reports.

The only problem with "underlying health issues" is that it is too blunt an instrument. It lumps somebody at 55 with a touch of asthma who runs 30 miles a week and leads a full, productive life with another at 92 who has dementia, heart failure and possibly more with no quality of life whatsoever.

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Perhaps Gaia is more in control of this than we all realise. This human nonsense has all gotten a bit out of hand and it's time for a reset. Opportune moment to do it. Boomers bulge is coming to the time where it's going to be contributing little and needing much resource, so arrange someone in China to put bat juice a bit too close to a civet and bingo, a nice little tug on the tiller to change the course of the planet for the next few years. Load of dead wood gone and a chastened residual human race taken down a peg or two to know its place a little better.

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1 hour ago, hissingsid said:

Unpleasant and unwelcoming is how one of the 29 people who was repatriated described his journey and return to the Island  W T F did he expect Douglas Town Band at the Sea Terminal or perhaps the Governor to be there to greet him ?   Ungrateful lout, yes they will have to pay some of the cost the rest being met by the taxpayers, again, yes, he may have been one of the unfortunates who were caught out by the lockdown but FFS what a moaning bag of bones this apology for a man is.  He did not have to come back he could have stayed where he was and with his attitude it is a pity he did not.

I heard it too. Selfish, whining shit. Should have left him where he was.

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23 minutes ago, woolley said:

The only problem with "underlying health issues" is that it is too blunt an instrument. It lumps somebody at 55 with a touch of asthma who runs 30 miles a week and leads a full, productive life with another at 92 who has dementia, heart failure and possibly more with no quality of life whatsoever.

What percentage of the population has either an underlying condition or an undiagnosed condition? A lot of people will be type 2 diabetic for example and not even realise it.

 

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2 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

What percentage of the population has either an underlying condition or an undiagnosed condition? A lot of people will be type 2 diabetic for example and not even realise it.

 

And that would be the unintended consequence of relaxing the lockdown at the wrong moment. We have seen stories of various people, of all ages, who have died without any apparent  underlying condition. But I guess for some that would be acceptable collateral damage. 

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