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Many of us will have heard stories from people we know about people who have been out and about even though they or someone in their household has the virus.

There are 3 groups in particular who still don't take this thing seriously or don't believe that their lives should be affected: arrogant blowhards, conspiracy nutters and, unfortunately, some of the elderly.

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@Lost Login - (and anyone else who thinks this doesn't apply to them particularly) I seem to recall you're an accountant so you can do this. Set up your own model of exponential growth in numbers

There's a lot of difficult concepts and difficult decisions being made here.  I'll have a go at a further explanation.  Possible long post ahead. First the difference between 'public health' and

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18 minutes ago, Max Power said:

I don't think any of the relaxed regulations should cause a problem at all? This is really a balancing act, trying to balance people's mental health and financial wellbeing with their bodily health and wellbeing. Providing people are sensible, which they are still legally bound to be, then there shouldn't be an issue. 

I heard a joiner on the phone saying it was impossible for him to work exercising social distancing as the workers have to travel to work together in the van and they work too closely together?? Well the answer is simple, don't go to work in the same vehicle and don't go to work at all if you can't keep your distance, it's not hard to understand!

All of the same restrictions apply to everyone, except that you can go out in the fresh air a bit more, relieving the locked in feeling, providing that we keep our distance as previously. 

We do have a low number of cases, we would soon know if people are not behaving responsibly, there's plenty of people on Faceache to let everyone know!   

 

Max,get the bike out for a spin tomorrow before the rain comes ;-)

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9 minutes ago, pongo said:

Many of us will have heard stories from people we know about people who have been out and about even though they or someone in their household has the virus.

There are 3 groups in particular who still don't take this thing seriously or don't believe that their lives should be affected: arrogant blowhards, conspiracy nutters and, unfortunately, some of the elderly.

If it was me you and your busy body friends were gossiping about, I've been given the all clear by a medical professional. 

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23 minutes ago, Max Power said:

I don't think any of the relaxed regulations should cause a problem at all? This is really a balancing act, trying to balance people's mental health and financial wellbeing with their bodily health and wellbeing. Providing people are sensible, which they are still legally bound to be, then there shouldn't be an issue. 

I heard a joiner on the phone saying it was impossible for him to work exercising social distancing as the workers have to travel to work together in the van and they work too closely together?? Well the answer is simple, don't go to work in the same vehicle and don't go to work at all if you can't keep your distance, it's not hard to understand!

All of the same restrictions apply to everyone, except that you can go out in the fresh air a bit more, relieving the locked in feeling, providing that we keep our distance as previously. 

We do have a low number of cases, we would soon know if people are not behaving responsibly, there's plenty of people on Faceache to let everyone know!   

 

I was out and about today with my colleague doing our thing, he went one South I'm one van, I went North in a separate can, however, whilst travelling, I saw, on two occasions two police vehicles both with two police officers none of whom had any PPE on, no masks, no gloves, therefore if it's ok for them to not social distance then surely it's ok for everyone else or are they immune to the virus?

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7 minutes ago, Rushen Spy said:

If it was me you and your busy body friends were gossiping about, I've been given the all clear by a medical professional. 

I have no idea who you are.

Apparently you don't either.

Also - I still don't believe your claim to have had the virus twice.

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Just now, pongo said:

I have no idea who you are.

Apparently you don't either.

Also - I still don't believe you claim to have had the virus twice.

I was just jesting about the "if you meant me" bit. 

That being said, I genuinely did have the virus twice. Fact. But let's agree to disagree as I don't care if you believe me or not. I am now fully recovered so there is nothing to be gained from dwelling on it. I just hope it means an immunity has been built-up.

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7 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said:

I was out and about today with my colleague doing our thing, he went one South I'm one van, I went North in a separate can, however, whilst travelling

Have you hired Howard as a typist?

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11 minutes ago, Rushen Spy said:

If it was me you and your busy body friends were gossiping about, I've been given the all clear by a medical professional. 

Marown vets?

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6 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said:

I was out and about today with my colleague doing our thing, he went one South I'm one van, I went North in a separate can, however, whilst travelling, I saw, on two occasions two police vehicles both with two police officers none of whom had any PPE on, no masks, no gloves, therefore if it's ok for them to not social distance then surely it's ok for everyone else or are they immune to the virus?

i read in the indy that 8 coppers have been diagnosed with the virus and some have now returned to work,   if anybody is going to spread it around they are travelling in pairs with no PPE and not usually from the same household.  unless the pairings are permanent and the same shifts for the time being and they keep the same vehicle i can't see how they can possibly be working as safe as the rest of us are supposed to.

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43 minutes ago, pongo said:

Most people in business here can work perfectly well remotely or else are trading with each other.

One good thing to come out of this crisis may well be a significant reduction in business travel and flights in particular. All over the world.

 

Good luck with trying to get our politicos on board with that one

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2 minutes ago, Neil Down said:

Good luck with trying to get our politicos on board with that one

Really? You think anyone wants to be cramped into plane any time soon. Playing Russian roulette breathing the same air as the person forced into the tiny seat next to you.

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36 minutes ago, Rushen Spy said:

If it was me you and your busy body friends were gossiping about, I've been given the all clear by a medical professional. 

Don't celebrate yet. My money is on you getting it for a third time.

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18 minutes ago, slinkydevil said:

Don't celebrate yet. My money is on you getting it for a third time.

If you have to try an angle,it may as well be a triangle

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3 hours ago, Utah 01 said:

Illegal?  Is it?

Yes

3 Amendment of the Emergency Powers (Coronavirus) (Events and Gatherings) Regulations 2020 In regulation 3 of the Emergency Powers (Coronavirus) (Events and Gatherings) Regulations 20202 —after the definition of “the Department” insert — « “gathering” means any meeting or assembly of two or more persons who are not members of the same household;».

http://www.tynwald.org.im/links/tls/SD/Pages/2020-Emergency-Powers.aspx

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3 minutes ago, piebaps said:

Yes

3 Amendment of the Emergency Powers (Coronavirus) (Events and Gatherings) Regulations 2020 In regulation 3 of the Emergency Powers (Coronavirus) (Events and Gatherings) Regulations 20202 —after the definition of “the Department” insert — « “gathering” means any meeting or assembly of two or more persons who are not members of the same household;».

http://www.tynwald.org.im/links/tls/SD/Pages/2020-Emergency-Powers.aspx

but if you are social distancing 2 metres apart is it still a gathering,   is queuing up outside tescos or where ever with more than 2 in the queue a gathering? and if not then how does having the same people the same distance apart in nobles park suddenly become a gathering?

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