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4 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Where are you from originally again?

yes,  there was talk of increasing speed limits on motorways.

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Press Release from the Rob Vine Fund   Following the cessation of Motor Sport on the Isle of Man in the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic the Directors of the Rob Vine Fund, Registered Charity No.954

@Lost Login - (and anyone else who thinks this doesn't apply to them particularly) I seem to recall you're an accountant so you can do this. Set up your own model of exponential growth in numbers

There's a lot of difficult concepts and difficult decisions being made here.  I'll have a go at a further explanation.  Possible long post ahead. First the difference between 'public health' and

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IOM  -  https://covid19.gov.im/news-releases-statements/no-further-coronavirus-cases-confirmed-4pm-21-may-2020/

"Since the last update (4pm Wednesday 20 May) there have been no further confirmed positive tests for coronavirus. 

The total number of confirmed cases remains at 336.

There have been 4,332 concluded tests, 21 people are awaiting results and five people are awaiting a test.

In total there are nine active cases with seven in the community and two in hospital. The contact tracing process is already underway.

There have been no further deaths caused by Covid-19, so the number of deaths remains 18 in the community and six in hospital."

https://covid19.gov.im/general-information/latest-updates/

https://covid19.gov.im/news-releases-statements/chief-ministers-statement-on-covid-19-21-may-2020/

Guernsey  -  https://covid19.gov.gg/test-results

Confirmed cases  -  252,  tested  -  4334,  recovered  -  236,  active cases  -  2,  deaths  -  13,  presumptive deaths  -  3

Jersey  -  https://www.gov.je/Health/Coronavirus/Pages/CoronavirusCases.aspx

Confirmed cases  -  306,  recovered  -  272,  deaths  -  29

Isle of Wight  -  deaths  -  56  ( 34  -  hospital )  -  https://onthewight.com/number-of-covid-19-deaths-in-isle-of-wight-care-homes-nearly-doubles-in-one-week/

Cornwall  -  deaths  -  174  ( 86  -  hospital )  -  https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/official-figures-show-cornwalls-total-4145258

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/no-further-covid-19-deaths-4153231

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/police-wake-up-visitors-campervans-4151368

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/thousands-sign-petition-20-mile-4152416

https://www.cornwalllive.com/whats-on/whats-on-news/huge-surge-holiday-bookings-cornwall-4152576

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2020-05-20/carnage-as-hundreds-head-to-devon-and-cornwall-s-beaches-to-make-the-most-of-the-sunshine/

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/village-store-enforces-strict-locals-4147117

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16 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

I've been working right through the lockdown to include regular commutes over the Mountain Rd. Personal opinions: 40mph is too slow, it falls irritatingly between ideal 4th gear speed and ideal 5th gear speed in my vehicle. However, having driven through the now increasing traffic this week, it's very noticeable how the blanket limit smooths out the overall flow and journey. There is no "concertina-ing" of lines of cars, largely caused by complete dickheads trying to overtake lines of slower cars at 70-80mph before having to slam on the brakes and find a gap to get back in because they've encountered something coming in the opposite direction. We've all seen it. These people largely need to be relieved of their licences.

It's been a considerably safer journey with far less defensive driving required because of absence of said complete dickheads. Something of a saving on fuel too. So far more efficient overall. I could see a 50 or 60mph limit being implemented on the back of this. Although as a biker too, it would be a pain in that respect.

I also wonder if anybody could perm any stats to work out exactly how many RTIs (and even deaths) we've avoided in this period, over usual conditions (Derek F?)

Any thoughts on this Derek?

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You're nothing like comparing like with like though. No way.

It's frightening that the police et al are bandying around figures around that this has been the lowest RTI (or whatver they are called these days) since 1990* or whenever it was.

Which begs the hackneyed but very appropriate phrase "No Shit Sherlock"

 

 

*although I would go so far as to say since a man used to walk with a red flag in front of the car. But I suppose the pissed up driver on the mountain put paid to that one.

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I for one am really fed up with this social distancing and it’s effects. However, I accept its there for a reason, and it’s here to stay in one guise or another.

What is annoying is the Police sticking their beaks in ‘yet again’ and using the Nations Propoganda Mouthpiece to spout quite simply ‘shite’.

At St Johns the other evening, the crowds were in evident, to welcome Christian Varley. Yet there were elements of the crowds not practicing social distancing. This was Facebook so it’s well documented. One of Gary Roberts mobsters was dressed up in his Tynpotwald/Funereal dress, uniform with white hat, and I’m sure he would have seen the lack of social distancing. One rule for one gathering and another rule for another gathering. 
https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/police-deal-with-multiple-people-ignoring-social-distancing-rules/

Or is it a problem, when you get some of Douglas’ finest thieves, druggies and troublemakers’ gathered? 

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7 minutes ago, 2112 said:

I for one am really fed up with this social distancing and it’s effects. However, I accept its there for a reason, and it’s here to stay in one guise or another.

What is annoying is the Police sticking their beaks in ‘yet again’ and using the Nations Propoganda Mouthpiece to spout quite simply ‘shite’.

At St Johns the other evening, the crowds were in evident, to welcome Christian Varley. Yet there were elements of the crowds not practicing social distancing. This was Facebook so it’s well documented. One of Gary Roberts mobsters was dressed up in his Tynpotwald/Funereal dress, uniform with white hat, and I’m sure he would have seen the lack of social distancing. One rule for one gathering and another rule for another gathering. 
https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/police-deal-with-multiple-people-ignoring-social-distancing-rules/

Or is it a problem, when you get some of Douglas’ finest thieves, druggies and troublemakers’ gathered? 

You could just call it policing by consent.

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23 minutes ago, 2112 said:

is it a problem, when you get some of Douglas’ finest thieves, druggies and troublemakers’ gathered? 

Yes that’s all it is. They are focusing on piss easy targets with previous form and that’s about it. I hope a lot of questions are asked about the behaviour of the police after all of this. 

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1 hour ago, gettafa said:

You're nothing like comparing like with like though. No way.

It's frightening that the police et al are bandying around figures around that this has been the lowest RTI (or whatver they are called these days) since 1990* or whenever it was.

Which begs the hackneyed but very appropriate phrase "No Shit Sherlock"

 

 

*although I would go so far as to say since a man used to walk with a red flag in front of the car. But I suppose the pissed up driver on the mountain put paid to that one.

Which is why I said "perm" the stats. The massive reduction in traffic would have to be taken into account otherwise it greatly skews the figures.

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3 hours ago, Major Rushen said:

Hope they keep the 40 limit until anyone driving who does not care that they may kill others in the road gets nicked and enjoys a ban!

That's a brilliant idea because it's such a good way of identifying self-important idiots who think they are the world's best driver.  But it would only work if the Police enforced it correctly (or indeed at all - how many prosecutions/fixed penalty notices have there been?).  Unfortunately, judging by the way they've dealt with the other COVID-19 rules, we'd find the usual suspects being picked up for going at 41 mph  while Terribly Important People sailed past at 80.

1 hour ago, 2112 said:

At St Johns the other evening, the crowds were in evident, to welcome Christian Varley. Yet there were elements of the crowds not practicing social distancing. This was Facebook so it’s well documented. One of Gary Roberts mobsters was dressed up in his Tynpotwald/Funereal dress, uniform with white hat, and I’m sure he would have seen the lack of social distancing. One rule for one gathering and another rule for another gathering. 
https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/police-deal-with-multiple-people-ignoring-social-distancing-rules/

Apart from anything else, it's not very respectful is it?  "Thank you for your magnificent effort.  We're now going to do our best to give you and everyone else whatever viruses we have".  I'm not suggesting the police should have arrested everyone, but a quiet word to get them to spread out a bit would have sensible and not made the police look ridiculous.

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2 hours ago, 2112 said:

At St Johns the other evening, the crowds were in evident, to welcome Christian Varley. Yet there were elements of the crowds not practicing social distancing. 

My son and I were cycling down the old Douglas/Peel railway lines last weekend, and a whole bunch of joggers (definitely not all from the same family!) went past who were definitely not social distancing, can only assume it was Christian & his support entourage.

Excellent effort by the chap but wasn't quite sure how it fitted in with the social distancing aspect that everyone is supposed to observe.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

That's a brilliant idea because it's such a good way of identifying self-important idiots who think they are the world's best driver.  But it would only work if the Police enforced it correctly (or indeed at all - how many prosecutions/fixed penalty notices have there been?).  Unfortunately, judging by the way they've dealt with the other COVID-19 rules, we'd find the usual suspects being picked up for going at 41 mph  while Terribly Important People sailed past at 80.

 

Not really.

No one gets done for exceeding the speed limit by 1 mph.

Also you don't need to be self important or even close to the world's best driver to travel at over 40 mph.   Or 70 mph really.

The 40 mph is far too slow.   I can't see any obvious justification for it remaining.

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