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Press Release from the Rob Vine Fund   Following the cessation of Motor Sport on the Isle of Man in the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic the Directors of the Rob Vine Fund, Registered Charity No.954

@Lost Login - (and anyone else who thinks this doesn't apply to them particularly) I seem to recall you're an accountant so you can do this. Set up your own model of exponential growth in numbers

There's a lot of difficult concepts and difficult decisions being made here.  I'll have a go at a further explanation.  Possible long post ahead. First the difference between 'public health' and

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4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

 

Ashford and Quayle both struggle with stuttering and are unable to read two sentences without doing so. Dr Allinson, Alf Cannan and Dr Ranson are better public speakers but Ashford and Quayle are getting better within time.

by the time they can make sense talking they will have been voted out.

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20 minutes ago, trmpton said:

Cant really see how people can criticise any of those at the press conference tbh.  Glad I am not the one sat there with everything I say being judged, scrutinised and with people looking to try me up and find fault at a time when we should all be pulling together.

Presumably that is why you haven’t put yourself up to be chief minister

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Just now, Manxberry said:

I mean, he actually has a point there. There's a hell of a lot of fake news out there stirring people into frenzies. He's got enough problems. 

It wasn’t fake news though was it, I saw two coaches with my own eyes at Ramsey park hotel the day before the 14 day self isolation came into play. They should have stopped this type of travel the week before, the warnings were already out there but they didn’t do anything. The ‘fake news’ came into play because the coaches were seen the day the isolation rule came into force but alas because they arrived before the cut off date it didn’t count and they were free to do as they wish.

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25 minutes ago, trmpton said:

Cant really see how people can criticise any of those at the press conference tbh.  Glad I am not the one sat there with everything I say being judged, scrutinised and with people looking to try me up and find fault at a time when we should all be pulling together.

That’s like saying don’t criticise a journalist that can’t spell. Part of politics is public speaking, if you can’t string a sentence together either get someone better to do it for you or see a speech therapist. Most public speakers speak slowly and concisely, he’s trying to speak ‘fast and fluid’ and it isn’t working. His body language doesn’t say calm and controlled, it says stressed and harassed which for me personally doesn’t inspire confidence.

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Fake news? 
 

Like putting out a press release that’s been picked up by the world’s press that a young man was arrested for breaking the self isolation law even though he arrived in the island two days before the law came into place?
 

That kind of fake news? 

Apart from that it was welcome news that they’re finally getting a grip on things. 
 

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45 minutes ago, Patient centred said:

Looks like you are way out now that the infection has officially been caught within the community. 

Not really the point still stands that we are a small Island so could in a matter of weeks kill the infection in the IoM by having a very heavy crackdown. We appear to be having that now and once we have no more cases, even if that is forcing everybody to self isolate for a period, that would effectively mean no Covid 19 in the IoM unless it is brought in from the outside.

The question remains what then? We are a year or possibly 2 before everybody could be vaccinated against the disease so we could theoretically keep the IoM clear in that period by preventing travel onto the IoM or possibly converting a couple of the hotels into isolation units so that anybody who travels to the IoM has to be isolated in one of these places for 7 or 14 days on returning.

Is that acceptable position for the IoM to take going forward?

My point was that as a small Island however far it has spread or nor we can take measures to stop it on the IoM. Having done that what do we do then until there is a vaccine? 

 

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15 minutes ago, ecobob said:

Fake news? 
 

Like putting out a press release that’s been picked up by the world’s press that a young man was arrested for breaking the self isolation law even though he arrived in the island two days before the law came into place?
 

That kind of fake news? 

Apart from that it was welcome news that they’re finally getting a grip on things. 
 

Was he actually arrested? If so the press release was not incorrect. He may have been arrested and on further enquiries released.

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I wonder, if all 80,000 of us on this Island disobeyed the instructions from the authorities and let's say 2.5% died that would leave 78,000, what can the authorities do? They can't arrest 78,000 people and certainly couldn't jail that many, they'd struggle to jail 1%. How could they even enforce any law, and that's if the Police had a full compliment, I assume that they'd use the fire brigade, including retained fire fighter to enforce and deputise them prior to that, as well as using special constables and reprising others who wished to enforce the law so let's say that would add another 2% of the populous which is 1600 people, would a total of around 2000 people to enforce the law enough to prevent the breakdown of law and order?

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1 minute ago, yootalkin2me said:

I wonder, if all 80,000 of us on this Island disobeyed the instructions from the authorities and let's say 2.5% died that would leave 78,000, what can the authorities do? They can't arrest 78,000 people and certainly couldn't jail that many, they'd struggle to jail 1%. How could they even enforce any law, and that's if the Police had a full compliment, I assume that they'd use the fire brigade, including retained fire fighter to enforce and deputise them prior to that, as well as using special constables and reprising others who wished to enforce the law so let's say that would add another 2% of the populous which is 1600 people, would a total of around 2000 people to enforce the law enough to prevent the breakdown of law and order?

Why would we want to create anarchy?

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