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1 hour ago, TheTeapot said:
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Legalise pot but heavily criminalise all other presently illegal drugs.

Most of the fucking pot heads I know are all into other shit. For example that fucking cocaine makes arseholes think they are non-arseholes whereas in fact it makes them even more of an arsehole. Coke heads make pubs empty. 

Going off-topic but you get the idea.

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Food provinence is a huge market, up our standards enormously and plug the shit out out of it, best food in the world Same with fishing, take advantage of Brexit, push hard to have much stronge

If we all buy land we can claim grants and live happily ever after. 

The 3 pronged attack of Douglas 2000, Project Centurian and Dandara destroyed Douglas nightlife 20 odd years ago

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Victorian romanticism disguised as cultural enrichment. What about pumping some money into the future (key word there) of Manx youth? Training programs, apprenticeships and suchlike, instead of failed and failing projects of which the list is getting ever longer. 

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1 hour ago, Manx Bean said:

What about a film industry?

IoM tried that and fucked it up severely

The local druggies ripped the film industry druggies off.

The local film people ripped their own locals off and left some unpaid for work done.

The film industry made up huge fucking invoices to claim VAT etc.

The Isle of Man has little chance of a bite of that particular cherry.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Steady on now Doc. Peel now is a massive suburban Dandara sprawl, more than twice the size it used to be and still growing, with the best attended culture hotspots being the quayside pubs and eateries. I'm not so sure it's quite as 18/19th century as some would like to think.

Yes, point taken about the suburban sprawl, but the nice thing about Peel (and Castletown) is they have both managed to keep the suburban sprawl on the periphery and retained the historical core more or less intact.  Contrast this with the redevelopment of South Ramsey in the 1960s, when what used to be the historical core was flattened and replaced with hideous 1960s style buildings like the St Paul's shopping arcade and the Costa Del Ramsey tower block.  The collateral damage from this included the Queen's Pier, which used to go into the heart of the old town, but is now a stranded asset on the edge of town.   

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32 minutes ago, BallaDoc said:

Yes, keep the Victorian heritage stuff, it's unique

It's not really though is it. You can go to any of a load of steam train rides in the UK. Plenty of trams in Blackpool and museums that have horse trams. All things you don't have to pay a load of money to get on a ferry of plane to go and see. 

We need something really unique. 

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12 minutes ago, gettafa said:

Legalise put but heavily criminalise all other presently illegal drugs.

Most of the fucking pot heads I know are all into other shit. For example that fucking cocaine makes arseholes think they are non-arseholes whereas in fact it makes them even more of an arsehole. Coke heads make pubs empty. 

Going off-topic but you get the idea.

Totally correct. I could go big on this topic, maybe later after work.

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19 minutes ago, BallaDoc said:

Yes, point taken about the suburban sprawl, but the nice thing about Peel (and Castletown) is they have both managed to keep the suburban sprawl on the periphery and retained the historical core more or less intact.  Contrast this with the redevelopment of South Ramsey in the 1960s, when what used to be the historical core was flattened and replaced with hideous 1960s style buildings like the St Paul's shopping arcade and the Costa Del Ramsey tower block.  The collateral damage from this included the Queen's Pier, which used to go into the heart of the old town, but is now a stranded asset on the edge of town.   

Point agreed with about the replacement stuff but the historical core was a collection of largely rotten, neglected 18th C. buildings that would have come down by themselves if they'd been left. Although I know that there were a number of vested interests who made a lot of money out of it. As kids we played in the rubble on the demolition sites in South Ramsey.

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25 minutes ago, BallaDoc said:

Yes, point taken about the suburban sprawl, but the nice thing about Peel (and Castletown) is they have both managed to keep the suburban sprawl on the periphery and retained the historical core more or less intact.

New Ballasalla sprawl is about as in your face as you can get.

The CoMin sprawl. Coming to a place near you soon.

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Romaticism aside, there's been calls to make our economy more diverse for a while, and its undergone a lot of changes in the last few decades. 

From being tourism led to being an offshore financial centre to an E-Gaming venue and now .... well all of those are in decline, and we seem to lack vision in thr house as to what we do next.

Its clear that when one sectors revenue becomes dominant we dont usexthat tax revenue to diversify the economy.  

We complain constantly that the Meat Plant for example is constantly losing money, yet we want more Manx Meat on our tables, then we complain again that it costs more than imported Meat. We can't prioritise whether we want a service the benefits the public or a service that makes a profit.

I think we should be clear to our respective MHK's during the next election cycle that we want people over profit. 

Task Skelly with coming up with ideas that make sense rather than giving him £50m to shake around like a Carnie at Douglas Fair trying to persuade people to try and hook a duck.

Give Ashford the budget to run the hospital properly with a full complement of staff and fund the private wing with state of the art equipment so we turn a profit from the wealthier individuals who dont want to wait in line (if enough investment is made theres a case for us getting private health tourists).

Task stuttering Alf to rework the taxation system to make the billions sat static in accounts here to become more mobile locally rather than internationally. If we are a World Class offshore financial centre, we should be generating considerably more tax locally.

And send Howard on a training course to understand how to look ministerial instead of like a headteacher of a failing high school. 

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6 hours ago, On The Bus said:

It's time the Island's great and good look at real options for diversifying the economy. 

The economic damage caused by the cancellation of the TT seems likely to be massive. It's own supporters make it clear they believe several local businesses aren't viable without it. So surely we need new strategies to diversify the economy and reduce the risks for when the TT is cancelled? 

It appears as an island we didn't learn the lessons of 2001 and continue to put all our eggs in the motorsport basket. Will we let this happen again? The TT is reliant on so many variables, volunteer unskilled marshals, weather, ferry crossings etc. It's only a matter of time before it is cancelled again (TT 2021 is already in doubt).

So what are the solutions?

 

Just the right moment to use 'helicopter' funding to kickstart the 'greening' of the Isle of Man economy

&  turn government's huge establishment into the backbone of a green entrepreneurial state

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4 hours ago, On The Bus said:

It's not really though is it. You can go to any of a load of steam train rides in the UK. Plenty of trams in Blackpool and museums that have horse trams. All things you don't have to pay a load of money to get on a ferry of plane to go and see. 

We need something really unique. 

Can I bang on about my Eden Project for Summerland again?

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19 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

Can I bang on about my Eden Project for Summerland again?

You should, looking like the Morecambe one is not going ahead

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