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2 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

Rachel has tried every which way to re-offer her services. This last tweet wasn't the first time she's reached out. Government has made it very clear they do not want her to be involved.

I want her to be involved. Not because I don't like the government, not because I don't trust the government, Not because I want to see her 'win' and them lose, not because she's my mate or my old school friend or because she posts on here and seems like a bloody good egg.

I would like her to be involved because what she's offering is something very very special for the Island. Something we may, should things get worse, help us to plan a way out of it.

After two weeks these crucial test results still haven't come back,  Today, Dr Ewart said she would 'chase them up'.  Chase them up FFS?

Rachel is saying she could have had the results turned around in one day.

Just to remind you.  This is a pandemic.  We are not exempt, sea or no sea.  It's is now spreading and we have a world class expert offering to assist.

They may not be listening to her but they could very well listen to us if enough of us made our voices heard.

I'm willing to stick my head over the parapet. By tweet, by email, to HQ - to the lot if necessary.

This is a ridiculous state of affairs folks.  We're being held to ransom here by some people's egos.  This is NOT in the best interests of the Island. Not in the slightest. Time to make our voices heard.

 

 

 

Although they're all to arrogant to take notice.

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31 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

You are offering 80 000+ people on this Island a golden opportunity to get ahead of the game and one/two/three? men are not allowing it to happen?

Sorry Roxanne but that is not necessarily correct. Wrong genders for start I hear.

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3 minutes ago, Apple said:

Sorry Roxanne but that is not necessarily correct. Wrong genders for start I hear.

Thank you.  I stand corrected. I don't care who it is really, I just care that we get the best.  We have the best and the best is offering.

And please don't apologise for your opinion.  It's not necessary.

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1 hour ago, pongo said:

Let's just get every vaccinated and move on.

That's the government mantra at the moment

 

They gambled throughout last year and won.  So personalities didnt matter.

 

Then they gambled in December and lost. Now they do matter.

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OK Roxanne.

Snowman - yes, personalities have played to much of a part. So have personal reputations and ambition and internal politics. 

Equally sure there are some who would like to move on.

Some are moving on. 

The policy is elimination by vaccine. Another gamble.

As they say, gongs all round.

 

 

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1 hour ago, pongo said:

ffs - that moronic old shite again

I am not in government and I don't work for government either. I'm not on a contract with them either. Or receiving anything from them. Jesus. Grow up.

Previously I've also been accused here of working for Tescos and Manx Telecom. I don't work for them either.

You’re obviously just an expert at everything. 

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2 hours ago, pongo said:

There isn't much advantage to leading the way on this. A quick lockdown is going to clearly be much more effective. Contact tracing apps are preferred I think by people who lean towards keeping things half open and then acting retrospectively. That's a mistake.

We won't be 'leading the way' with a contact tracing app - that's stupid DfE-style talk.  We'll look at other places that are running an effective app with widespread adoption (be it Ireland, New Zealand, Taiwan, Jersey of whoever) and take what we need from them.  There's not the time to reinvent the wheel and it would be stupid in any case.

I was looking at the Auckland outbreak in August and I was struck by how effective their contact tracing was.  Very few cases were reported as unlinked to others, even when first announced.  Even casual contacts such as being on the same bus that led to infection were picked.

In contrast of the non-travel cases announced here over the last week, 7 were unlinked compared to 15 that were - about a third.  It's not as bad as some places (eg Malta) but it's nothing like as reassuring as the sort of figures they were getting New Zealand.  In the end they were able to trace every single case of infection they had.

The Isle of Man meanwhile ignores the fact that each of those 7 cases could be the start of a separate outbreak.  Keep your eyes tightly closed and the bad thing will go away.

And this 'quick' lockdown is estimated to cost at least £8 - £10 million.  Maybe we should be looking at things that might reduce the length and scope of the next one.

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42 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

Rachel has tried every which way to re-offer her services. This last tweet wasn't the first time she's reached out. Government has made it very clear they do not want her to be involved.

I want her to be involved. Not because I don't like the government, not because I don't trust the government, Not because I want to see her 'win' and them lose, not because she's my mate or my old school friend or because she posts on here and seems like a bloody good egg.

I would like her to be involved because what she's offering is something very very special for the Island. Something we may, should things get worse, help us to plan a way out of it.

After two weeks these crucial test results still haven't come back,  Today, Dr Ewart said she would 'chase them up'.  Chase them up FFS?

Rachel is saying she could have had the results turned around in one day.

Just to remind you.  This is a pandemic.  We are not exempt, sea or no sea.  It's is now spreading and we have a world class expert offering to assist.

They may not be listening to her but they could very well listen to us if enough of us made our voices heard.

I'm willing to stick my head over the parapet. By tweet, by email, to HQ - to the lot if necessary.

This is a ridiculous state of affairs folks.  We're being held to ransom here by some people's egos.  This is NOT in the best interests of the Island. Not in the slightest. Time to make our voices heard.

 

 

 

I agree 100%, this is a ridiculous situation and needs to stop. This virus is not going away any time soon its varying and mutating, we need all the help we can get. I'm writing to my MHK to demand an explanation and request that they get Dr Glover working for the Manx population. Perhaps some kind of petition could be raised?

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They don't take any notice of petitions.

There's only one thing that will work

1 - make the general public aware of what exactly it is that Rachel is offering and what advantages it will have for the Island.

2 - Pressurise the goverment into doing a uturn.

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Tim Glover, Manx Radio and Paul Moulton and some of the others, are asking questions sent to them or even that come up in the live feeds of the briefings.

It's time for the media to ask questions more on this. 

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