Jump to content

IOM Covid removing restrictions


Recommended Posts

3 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Then I watched BBC news and there was an article filmed in a UK park. Folks everywhere, sat together on benches, hardly any masks, kids mixing. The article wasnt even focusing on that, it was just going on on the background as if it was life as normal. 

And the virus rolls on......

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 31k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Banker

    2302

  • TheTeapot

    1340

  • Gladys

    1181

  • horatiotheturd

    1015

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

OK. For what it's worth I'm going to try and explain why genomics is important in a ssRNA virus epidemic. No doubt it will end up being recited badly at a briefing, but, well, whatever. You read it he

Rachel has tried every which way to re-offer her services. This last tweet wasn't the first time she's reached out. Government has made it very clear they do not want her to be involved. I want h

I think you'll find most so called anti-government rhetoric is focused on government-stupidity and government-selfishness. In recent times - under Brown, Bell and now Quayle - all too many govern

Posted Images

22 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Big generalisation accepted but

UK approach - Well here is the new rule. Now how can I get round it?

IOM approach- Well here is the new rule. How can I make sure I comply with it?

The result of the difference is clear.apologies for those who live in the UK as this does not apply to everyone, but knowing plenty of folks there, including family, there is clearly a different culture.

That's not the culture, it's about the government and authorities here failing to recognise that lockdown is difficult and people are doing their best to comply.

We have been asked to curtail our freedoms for the greater good and we are, but there's no recognition of that. No respect for the general public. Look at the hysterical Police Social Media troll account. Or the courts imprisoning people for minor Covid breaches - how can we ever trust these institutions after this?

  • Like 4
  • Sad 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

I guess the good behaviour will start to wane as the lockdown continues. 

However I took the dog for a walk at lunchtime and people avoided me like I had the plague.  Crossing the road etc. Masks everywhere. Hardly any traffic. Then I watched BBC news and there was an article filmed in a UK park. Folks everywhere, sat together on benches, hardly any masks, kids mixing. The article wasnt even focusing on that, it was just going on on the background as if it was life as normal. 

Easy to put up with it for a few weeks.

They've had months.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Declan said:

Easy to put up with it for a few weeks.

They've had months.

They've had months of 'this is definitely the last time, we're coming out of it now, we're getting back to normal' etc.

But actually, it's back to normal despite lockdown in a way that just makes things a bit shit. You're still going to work etc. You just can't see anyone you like, or do anything you like.

Plenty of places in the UK still making people go into the office as well as they don't trust WFH.

Link to post
Share on other sites

It will be interesting in a few weeks time when someone who has been vaccinated with enough time for it to be effective travels to the U.K, returns to IOM and then tests positive having been infected on their travels.

Vaccination is not protection from infection or transmission. No credit was ever given for someone coming back having had COVID.

So what will will be the requirements- self isolation?

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

Plenty of places in the UK still making people go into the office as well as they don't trust WFH.

Well if it’s like here where there’s loads out walking, cycling and gardening when they’re supposed to be WFH I don’t blame them!

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Gladys said:

It is.  A couple I shopped for in the first lockdown were very pragmatic and stoical, despite having to isolate from each other in their own home, twice, during that time.

Now, they are saying things like "when they let us out", so perhaps even they are feeling imprisoned rather than protected. 

As far as I can tell most people will comply if they feel the rules are fair and logical and that their is a realist end point. We will wait and see what Comin do to change that position, but if restrictions are extended beyond for no obviously good reason, or if restrictions become open ended, just watch the mood change.

Personally I have found this lockdown different and harder in many ways, foul weather being probably the most obvious, but also other things such as it isn't a new virus/threat anymore, and I feel I have a better grasp of what Covid is, and the threat it presents to the health and wealth of the island. 

  • Like 4
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Banker said:

Well if it’s like here where there’s loads out walking, cycling and gardening when they’re supposed to be WFH I don’t blame them!

So glad I don't have neighbours nearby spying on me like the Stasi Neighbourhood Watch. Peeping out from behind their net curtains and taking notes.

Is there much to do in the garden at this time of year?

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said:

As interesting as your comments are, why would you ever want to come back to IOM?

I can recommend a good removal company! :cool:

 

It is true, I have got homes in three different jurisdictions, and could easily add a fourth one, Switzerland, as I have been planning to do for a while. Life is mostly normal here. People can come and go, meet whom they want to meet. Unthinkable to throw someone in jail for stepping out of his home. The government is aflush with funds because every time there is a crisis the franc tends to appreciate and the central bank prints a lot of money to keep it down and invests the proceeds into things like US stocks, which has worked out wonderfully.

The long term consequences of bad policy decisions will be borne by the likes of you, not by me.

I am not giving up on the island for the time being, but plans are on hold. I wanted to buy a bigger place there, and had thought about rental property as well: all on hold. We (me and my business partners) had also though about an office in the island in alternative or in addition to the one in London: unthinkable now, it is so difficult to even travel there and there are obviously concerns about the long term viability of the island as an independent, liberal and prosperous jurisdiction. It has sealed itself from the outside world, thrown into jail for Covid violations more people than the crassest authoritarian regimes of the world, and it is in complete denial about the long term consequences.

By the way, I am getting a server configuration error accessing this forum from where I am (but I don’t think the location is the issue). It happens with all threads, not just this one. The problem goes away if one has an account and is signed in. Even this forum is shunning outsiders now. You are all going native.

 

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, pongo said:

I so glad I don't have neighbours nearby spying on me like the Stasi Neighbourhood Watch. Peeping out from behind their net curtains and taking notes.

Is there much to do in the garden at this time of year?

Walking by if ok with you , never seen it so busy our walking in winter!

Didnt ask the gardeners what they were doing but will next time for you😀

Link to post
Share on other sites

@pongo Plenty to do in the garden this time of year. For some plants it's a crucial pruning time, hard fruits like pear and apple need tidying-up; de-limbing, dead wood removed, a feed maybe, and some re-topping. Turning the compost and tilling the top-soil. Most of the stuff in my garden is in dormancy so a good time to replant; bigger pots/planters. If you're into gardening there's always something to be getting on with. Therapy at its best, relaxing, exertive and satisfying to see the results. 

  • Like 5
Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, Major Rushen said:

It will be interesting in a few weeks time when someone who has been vaccinated with enough time for it to be effective travels to the U.K, returns to IOM and then tests positive having been infected on their travels.

Vaccination is not protection from infection or transmission. No credit was ever given for someone coming back having had COVID.

So what will will be the requirements- self isolation?

 

If everyone over 50 has been vaccinated there's nowt to worry about (I'd say 60 but there's still a few middle aged snowflakes knocking about).

Edited by Nom de plume
  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites

When we look at some of the Western attitudes to observance of lockdown terms, the attendant restriction of freedoms and Covid death figures It's perhaps worth looking at the figures to date from some of the Far Eastern countries, I'll use two, being Taiwan and the Philippines (all available on google).

Taiwan, in particular, had anticipated another pandemic following on from SARS and planning and infrastructure was in place, ready. Their population was compliant with the lockdown conditions. The result was seven Covid deaths from a population of 23M.

It was also not unusual in footage from any Far Eastern country, following SARS and pre-Covid pandemic, to see many of the population wearing facemasks in crowded areas as a matter of course. Japan, Korea too. It was simply a matter of course and they did it apparently without objection.

The Philippines, with a population in excess of 120M, has "only" suffered 10,000 deaths. Again, their lockdowns were fairly stringent with the military enforcing compliance on the streets on occasions. Mask wearing is compulsory on many city streets and areas.

Now compare with UK and US where lockdowns, distancing restrictions and wearing of masks, have been frequently fought tooth and nail and ridiculed in the name of "freedoms", not least by some leaders.

With a combined death toll of 500,000 now, who's got it right and who's got it wrong?

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
  • Confused 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...