pongo 4,844 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 23 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: ..... oh pipe down & get back behind your sofa with your skateboard helmet on Pingu. Do you seriously believe that Covid is just a scare / hoax? That it's them? And who are they? And why? Perhaps it's you who should put the pipe down Or are you just pretending to sound like the crazies? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the stinking enigma 11,884 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If the south african variant gets here, which is entirely possible given our population, would we not be better knowing this a week before what we actually will by waiting for liverpool? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Onchan 4,717 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Tricky said: Well, I trust Henrietta 100%. For the last 7 or so months, the IOM has been one of the safest places in the world to live, much in part to the work undertaken by her and her team. The UK, on the other hand, has been on its arse ever since case #1. To think, all those who have been kicking off about a few weeks of lockdown (which is working), try living in the UK over the same period. Then we have those also kicking off regarding supposed 'over policing'. Well, the following is an excerpt from a Whatsapp chat with a friend living in Portugal: "Get this. I was in the supermarket earlier, shopping for groceries. Someone known to have tested positive for covid was spotted by store staff. The store announced that everyone barring the covid positive individual leave the store with immediate effect. If the covid positive person tried to leave the store, the store will be locked and police will be called. 19 people stayed in the store (all covid positive)!" For me, its about time people started showing some gratitude for the relative safety we have, rather than whining at every single opportunity. I think we should be grateful for the Manx public at large for being compliant and for having perhaps a greater understanding and grasp of what's going on around them than 'they' think. It's been said before, closing the border is an easy decision to make. Getting them back open is going to be more problematic without a box with all the proper tools at our disposal. We haven't yet heard from The Director of Public Health what the plan is to allow that to happen. When she withdrew testing back in the summer (assuming it was her recommendation) it was a mistake and she probably knows it. Until I see a document laying out what she believes will be the models for opening up the Island then I might have some confidence in her. Until that happens I'm afraid people will speculate all sorts of things resulting in the negativity that you read on here. Edited January 22 by Andy Onchan 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 hours ago, Major Rushen said: If the U.K. has almost 40,000 in hospital with lock down, proportionally that be over 500 for IOM. That would be scary. You sure about the maths ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Happier diner 795 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 12 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: If the south african variant gets here, which is entirely possible given our population, would we not be better knowing this a week before what we actually will by waiting for liverpool? I keep saying this but........what would we do differently? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the stinking enigma 11,884 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 What would we do differently if a strain that the vaccine potentially wasn't effective against or future strains that may be more deadly emerged here? I don't know. I would hope something. What do you think we would do? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,964 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I think we should be grateful for the Manx public at large for being compliant and for having perhaps a greater understanding and grasp of what's going on around them than 'they' think. It's been said before, closing the border is an easy decision to make. Getting them back open is going to be more problematic without a box with all the proper tools at our disposal. We haven't yet heard from The Director of Public Health what the plan is to allow that to happen. When she withdrew testing back in the summer (assuming it was her recommendation) it was a mistake and she probably knows it. Until I see a document laying out what she believes will be the models for opening up the Island then I might have some confidence in her. Until that happens I'm afraid people will speculate all sorts of things resulting in the negativity that you read on here. Doubt we will see the document from advisors as Howie doesn’t like to publish anything, Tynwald asked for the advice from Coronavirus emergency committee to be published and Ashie successfully got this pushed back to March Tynwald, why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tricky 108 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I think we should be grateful for the Manx public at large for being compliant and for having perhaps a greater understanding and grasp of what's going on around them than 'they' think. It's been said before, closing the border is an easy decision to make. Getting them back open is going to be more problematic without a box with all the proper tools at our disposal. We haven't yet heard from The Director of Public Health what the plan is to allow that to happen. When she withdrew testing back in the summer (assuming it was her recommendation) it was a mistake and she probably knows it. Until I see a document laying out what she believes will be the models for opening up the Island then I might have some confidence in her. Until that happens I'm afraid people will speculate all sorts of things resulting in the negativity that you read on here. People will speculate/talk shite regardless of whether information is released or not. If Gov put info in the public domain, the die hard naysayers on here, Facebook etc will whinge... why are they putting this here, why don't they put it there, they opened to early, I wish they would open sooner ffs... and so on. If Gov withhold info, people will whinge... why don't they tell us what's going on, they fact they won't tell us means they don't know what to do... and so on. The old opinions and assholes analogy applies here... only issue I have is trying to establish which of the two we have more of. In summary, people will whinge because that's what they would rather do than do as they are told. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roxanne 2,916 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Wash our hands and get on with it seems to be the only other plan that keeps getting mooted. Like the UK are doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the stinking enigma 11,884 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On something you are already a week behind on i would have thought waiting a further week on top of that to find out was a bit cavalier. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Happier diner 795 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, the stinking enigma said: What would we do differently if a strain that the vaccine potentially wasn't effective against or future strains that may be more deadly emerged here? I don't know. I would hope something. What do you think we would do? Well we don't develop vaccines so I guess all we could do is what we do now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Believer 13,279 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Banker said: Doubt we will see the document from advisors as Howie doesn’t like to publish anything, Tynwald asked for the advice from Coronavirus emergency committee to be published and Ashie successfully got this pushed back to March Tynwald, why? Time needed to administer Redactions.....? 😂 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the stinking enigma 11,884 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Well we don't develop vaccines so I guess all we could do is what we do now And are you still going to maintain that knowing this kind of information doesn't really matter if it comes one day or six days later? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Happier diner 795 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: And are you still going to maintain that knowing this kind of information doesn't really matter if it comes one day or six days later? I certainly am Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manx Yeller 202 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 33 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I think we should be grateful for the Manx public at large for being compliant and for having perhaps a greater understanding and grasp of what's going on around them than 'they' think. It's been said before, closing the border is an easy decision to make. Getting them back open is going to be more problematic without a box with all the proper tools at our disposal. We haven't yet heard from The Director of Public Health what the plan is to allow that to happen. When she withdrew testing back in the summer (assuming it was her recommendation) it was a mistake and she probably knows it. Until I see a document laying out what she believes will be the models for opening up the Island then I might have some confidence in her. Until that happens I'm afraid people will speculate all sorts of things resulting in the negativity that you read on here. Completely agree. You only have to look at the news today of the I think 150 people at a wedding in the UK to see that it fundamentally is down to how the public behave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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