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2 hours ago, quilp said:

About 200 a week according to Ashford in that revealing video you didn't watch. 

Have not seen that, but 200 per week sounds like a lot. 40 per day. Must have  risen drastically  this last few years. 

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6 minutes ago, Anyone said:

Ageing population I’m afraid , plus a hospital that is at best a glorified A&E means more patient transfers.

I agree about the ageing population, but an island this size can not ever have the facilities to cater for all conditions. Our tax would be about 45 % if we’re going to cater for every medical procedure here. Far cheaper to ship us away for specialist treatment.

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1 hour ago, dilligaf said:

Have not seen that, but 200 per week sounds like a lot. 40 per day. Must have  risen drastically  this last few years. 

What quilp said was a bit ambiguous, but the 200 per week quoted by Ashford was the figure for all arrivals - as opposed to 700 in December.  He mentioned patient transfers as being part of that, but I think it's only about 40 a week at the moment, if that. 

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1 hour ago, Anyone said:

Ageing population I’m afraid , plus a hospital that is at best a glorified A&E means more patient transfers.

i'm sure all the hardworking nurses, doctors and other staff appreciate you shitting all over their hardwork by calling their workplace a glorified A&E.

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Well they have not been that busy what with our obliteration policy which has worked. And it is a glorified A&E Chief. Always will be , that is a fact of being a small Island with a small population. 

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13 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

What quilp said was a bit ambiguous, but the 200 per week quoted by Ashford was the figure for all arrivals - as opposed to 700 in December.  He mentioned patient transfers as being part of that, but I think it's only about 40 a week at the moment, if that. 

Thankyou Roger, I'm not averse to a little ambiguity from time to time... 

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9 minutes ago, Anyone said:

Well they have not been that busy what with our obliteration policy which has worked. And it is a glorified A&E Chief. Always will be , that is a fact of being a small Island with a small population. 

absolute fucking bollox mate you haven't got a fucking clue how busy they've been, you do know people still get sick, fall, have babies, need treatment, none of that has stopped because of corona.

Also if you want i can list all the services they offer that a 'Glorified A&E' doesn't do all of which have continued to run despite corona.

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11 minutes ago, Anyone said:

Well they have not been that busy what with our obliteration policy which has worked. And it is a glorified A&E Chief. Always will be , that is a fact of being a small Island with a small population. 

Yeah right, a glorified A&E :rolleyes:

Thanks to our ‘obliteration policy’ we’re currently one of the few places in the British Isles still doing any regular elective work. 

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49 minutes ago, The Chief said:

absolute fucking bollox mate you haven't got a fucking clue how busy they've been, you do know people still get sick, fall, have babies, need treatment, none of that has stopped because of corona.

Also if you want i can list all the services they offer that a 'Glorified A&E' doesn't do all of which have continued to run despite corona.

Therein lies the problem. Those who believe the nonsense shoved down our throats. All that is what the NHS is for. I don’t have a clue how busy they have been and neither do you. Anyway , they should be busy or do you want to pay them for sitting on their thumbs. 

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3 minutes ago, Anyone said:

Therein lies the problem. Those who believe the nonsense shoved down our throats. All that is what the NHS is for. I don’t have a clue how busy they have been and neither do you. Anyway , they should be busy or do you want to pay them for sitting on their thumbs. 

I would suggest that the majority of society would prefer the NHS to be relatively quiet and I for one have no problem whatsoever paying them “to sit on their thumbs”.  Do you feel the same about firefighters?  Coastguard?

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2 minutes ago, Anyone said:

Therein lies the problem. Those who believe the nonsense shoved down our throats. All that is what the NHS is for. I don’t have a clue how busy they have been and neither do you. Anyway , they should be busy or do you want to pay them for sitting on their thumbs. 

So busy that the Royal Lancaster Infirmary are actually looking into closing their pediatric unit to be replaced with more bed space for COVID patients, along with converting waiting rooms to makeshift wards? They're looking at redirecting patients 50 miles away to Barrow in Furness as the closest place with capacity.

Busy enough that care staff are having mental breakdowns and they need volunteers to turn patients in ICU beds? That ICUs are turning from 1-to-1 nursing to as high as 1-to-5?

Unfortunately, it really highlights the limits the Conservative government has pushed the NHS to. They're on the skin of their teeth at the best of times. This isn't the fault of the hospitals or NHS itself, and is a symptom of systemic underfunding and unpicking of the NHS to be sold off to the elite.

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The point I was making is that the NHS and emergency services here has , unlike the UK , not been even close to being overwhelmed , nor have any of the emergency services. They’ve all had an an easy ride.

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