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5 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Jesus. I can't believe the ignorance. Vaccination is not for this purpose and would likely have made sod all difference. Don't believe what Robertshaw is spouting. He knows SFA about the science.

I'm not ignorant. Biology will determine how much is passed on.

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56 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

Oh shut your face for Christ’s sake. For one, the public sector have been working all through the lockdowns and for two, get rid of that bloody chip off your shoulder. It’s weighing you, and us down. 

 

54 minutes ago, HeliX said:

is there a helpline for people who don't want to spend the next 2 weeks reading Banker whinging?

Like notwell in days of yore, banker provides plenty of opportunity for sensible opinion to counter his own rather bunkered view on life.

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Just now, Andy Onchan said:

I'm not ignorant. Biology will determine how much is passed on.

Vaccination is not designed to allow organisations to do stupid things like not following advice and guidance. The SPCo should be operated in a COVID safe way. If you think vaccinating all of the staff would allow them to not work in a safe way and get away with it then you are wrong.

If you are vaccinated and come into contact with the virus it will be in you and on you and you could pass it on for a short period. Your immune system would see it and set to work on it and (hopefully) stop you being ill. In that short time there is a risk you could pass it on. Therefore vaccinating the SPC staff;

1) Would not work

2) Would deprive a vulnerable person from getting vaccinated.

You don't need to be an expert on disease control or immunology to understand this.

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4 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Vaccination is not designed to allow organisations to do stupid things like not following advice and guidance. The SPCo should be operated in a COVID safe way. If you think vaccinating all of the staff would allow them to not work in a safe way and get away with it then you are wrong.

If you are vaccinated and come into contact with the virus it will be in you and on you and you could pass it on for a short period. Your immune system would see it and set to work on it and (hopefully) stop you being ill. In that short time there is a risk you could pass it on. Therefore vaccinating the SPC staff;

1) Would not work

2) Would deprive a vulnerable person from getting vaccinated.

You don't need to be an expert on disease control or immunology to understand this.

It's a couple of hundred people when we are vaccinating about 800 a day.  I'm not sure it massively impacts on "the vunerable".  Not forgetting a decent portion of the vulnerable have been vaccinated already. 

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Just now, TheTeapot said:

Sigh.

I was about to explain yet again how genomics and tracing (there's no tracking apps being used here) interact and reinforce each other.  But you're right, they would take no more notice than they did the previous times.

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10 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Vaccination is not designed to allow organisations to do stupid things like not following advice and guidance. The SPCo should be operated in a COVID safe way. If you think vaccinating all of the staff would allow them to not work in a safe way and get away with it then you are wrong.

If you are vaccinated and come into contact with the virus it will be in you and on you and you could pass it on for a short period. Your immune system would see it and set to work on it and (hopefully) stop you being ill. In that short time there is a risk you could pass it on. Therefore vaccinating the SPC staff;

1) Would not work

2) Would deprive a vulnerable person from getting vaccinated.

You don't need to be an expert on disease control or immunology to understand this.

It's called risk mitigation. Otherwise why would we be bothering with vaccinations at all?

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4 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

I was about to explain yet again how genomics and tracing (there's no tracking apps being used here) interact and reinforce each other.  But you're right, they would take no more notice than they did the previous times.

Thats because they know that it wouldn't help because that's their job. The sequencing will be done, but for different reasons. If HRH DrG can get sequence tests before people get a positive test (i.e magic) then it would be very useful (incredibly useful). The sad truth is that she can't. She might be able to get a result a bit quicker (say 3 days rather then 5) but sadly that's no help.

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